what is the reason for the dispute over the land of Palestine?

Question

why is the land so important to both sides ? i cant see nothing in a area of landso important that ppl would hate,abuse,murder,each other for. i cant see a kind loveing peacefull GOD that would be pleased enough to reward anyone for this kind of bad deeds . any explainations from islam or christian scolars will be greatly appreciated as i wish to learn and understand about this .

Answer 1

Palestine does not exist today.

The current PLO and Arab claim (and mainstream media regurgitation of it) is indeed a very distorted version of `recorded history' and can only qualify as pure Orwellian propaganda. In fact, putting aside all the myths and propaganda, the only area that would qualify historically as truly Arab land, is the Arabian desert peninsula. Unfortunately, it seems that Goebbels was correct in stating that if a lie were repeated often enough, it would come to be "perceived" as truth.

Palestinian leaders claim that Israel is built on Arab land, when the truth is that eyewitnesses such as Mark Twain and Rev. Manning of England who visited the Holy Land in the last century wrote that the land was barren and empty. The population then was less that 5% of today's population.

In fact, the return of the Jews in 1800's and early 1900's created jobs and Arabs from impoverished areas were drawn into the Holy Land for work. Peters also tells us that in 1948 so many Arabs were new to the area and could not qualify for the UN requirement for refugee status (people forced to leave "permanent" or "habitual" homes) that they added a clause permitting refugee status for Arabs who had been there as little as two years.

Thus, the Zionist slogan "The Land without a people for the people without a land" was absolutely correct. The slogan did not mean that there were no inhabitants at all in Palestine; it just indicated that the non-Jewish population constituted a conglomeration of dozens of heterogeneous groups of residents having very little in common, i.e. not constituting a single nation, a people. These residents were not united by any specific national idea.

Prof. James Parkes wrote that the Balfour declaration for the first time established a "unit called Palestine on a political map. ...There was no such thing historically as a 'Palestinian Arab', and there was no feeling of unity among 'the Arabs' of this newly defined area".

The Islamic terrorist group called Hisb'Allah entered sovereign Israeli territory on 12 July 2006, killed 8 Israeli soldiers and kidnapped two Israeli soldiers.

This terror group them began bombarding Israel with Katyusha rockets with no motive other than to kill and maim Israeli citizens. The tactic involved locating the terror headquarters, bunkers and launching positions in the middle of Lebanese civilian neighborhoods, including building mosques and kindergartens above their bunkers. They apparently had no qualms about subjecting their Lebanese friends to the return fire from Israel.

Needless to say, Israel returned fire.

That is the long and short of Israel's "attacks" on Lebanon.


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Answer 2

There is no consistency in defining what constitutes "Palestine".

If you take the history of the region back a few thousand years, you'd find it was called "Judea". Then the Romans arrived and occuppied it (for it's presence along major trade routes, mostly), and renamed it "Palestine" because it annoyed the inhabitants.

Although changing hands many times over the next two millenia, it remained occuppied and called "Palestine" until most recently lost by the Ottomans during WWI, and was then occuppied by the British.

All that is key to understand. As of the end of WWII, the British owned it outright, and could do what they wanted with it. What they chose to do was break it up into smaller states in an effort to quell a lot of the religious fighting that was already going on. That's important, too. The hatred you see isn't about the land, it predates the creation of Israel.

Also key to understand is that before "Palestine" was divided up, there was no Jordan, there was no Lebanon. It's not about the land. If it were, they'd want Lebanon and Jordan destroyed, too.

The Palestinians are not taught these things, but they are available to anyone that does some research on the internet.

The land isn't important to the Palestinians. They just want the Jews to cease to exist. The land is important to the Jews because they want one place in the world where it will never be illegal to be a Jew.

The conflict will continue until the Palestinians give up their goal of eradicating the Jews.

Answer 3

Great Britain, after WWII promised that land to both arabs and Jews, and gave the land t othe Jews who needed a place after the Holocaust. Immediately following Isreals independance in 1949, the Arab states started disputing the land, and the current struggle, known as the Intafada(uprising) is the latest in Isreals war-ridden history.

Answer 4

ivri_anokhi has managed to put together a totally one-sided account of this, but it has been put together to seem authoratitve. A very clever way to push a pro-Zionist agenda.

He neglects to mention Zionist terrorist groups, for example, Nikmat Olalim (toddler's revenge) who blew up a pipe bomb in a Palestinian school.

He says that it is acceptable for people to take land that is uninhabited, or at least empty. I presume he would say the usage of such an argument to justify the occupation of aboriginal lands in Australia, or the stealing of Indian lands in North America was morally incorrect. There is not, and should not, be one rule for Israel and the another for everyone else.

The reason there is so much tension is because both sides are absolutely stupid. The British should not have dumped a Jewish homeland in the middle of Arab land to absolve themselves of the guilt they felt for not having done more to prevent Jewish suffering during the second world war (although I notice a lack of homeland for the gypsies, the gays, the disabled, the Chinese and everyone else who was involved in the pogroms (not just the western ones) of WW2. There is no dialogue between the sides, they both like a fight and neither is willing to back down. The Arabs because they see the land as stolen from them, the Jews because they see Israel as promised to them by God.

The problams have been inflamed by Arab attacks, in terms of terrorism and full-scale wars, then by Israel's settlements which have been the subject of numerous UN objections. The Arabs have attacked the Jewish people in numerous ways (although only began utilising suicide bombing as a last resort) and Israel has used its considerable US backed armed forces to ghettoise the Arab people. It seems the persecuted have learnt from their persecutors.

Israel has built a wall to protect itself from the Arabs. Any similarities with Warsaw?! Maybe Israel will burn Palestine too. They nearly managed it with Lebanon.

Both sides are too stubborn and obstinant to talk to each other, to say we have both done wrong. Instead, each is content to blame each other and carry on beting merry hell. Hate is alot easier to allow to foster than forgiveness and admitting self-truths.

Answer 5

The fight goes all the way back to the descendants of Abraham in the bible. Abraham had a child with a mistress, Hagar, at the age of 86 and named him Ishmael (current descendants of palestinians). When he was 99 years old, God spoke to Abraham saying, "I am God Almighty;" walk before me, and be blameless. And I will make my covenant between me and you, and will make you exceedingly numerous." Then Abram fell on his face; and God said to him, "As for me, this is my covenant with you: You shall be the ancestor of a multitude of nations. No longer shall your name be Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you the ancestor of a multitude of nations. I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you. I will establish my covenant between me and you, and your offspring after you throughout their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your offspring after you. And I will give to you, and to your offspring after you, the land where you are now an alien, all the land of Canaan, for a perpetual holding; and I will be their God."

Hence, a covenant was made. Well, God appeared to Abraham and his lawful wife Sarah, who thought she could not bear a child in her old age, and was told by the Angel that she would be with child. They would name him Isaac (meaning Laughter). God said to Abraham, "As for Sarah your wife, you shall not call her Sarai, but Sarah shall be her name. I will bless her, and moreover I will give you a son by her. I will bless her, and she shall give rise to nations; kings of peoples shall come from her." Also, "I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his offspring after him. As for Ishmael, I have heard you; I will bless him and make him fruitful and exceedingly numerous; he shall be the father of twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear to you at this season next year."

You see, Abraham did not wait upon the Lord and doubted that the Lord would bring him a child with his wife Sarah in her old age (90) and thus had relations with a servant to bear a child for him. This was not part of God's plan for Abraham, but nevertheless he BLESSED Ishmael, Abraham's son, and Ishmael's descendants anyway and made them multiply and gave them countless blessings. But, the child whom God had promised, with the aforementioned covenant, would be the one with Sarah, his wife, which was all in God's plan from the beginning.

Hence, the fighting is for the land and the covenant. God blessed the (now) nation of Israel through the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob down through the lineage of David and the coming of the Messiah, the savior of mankind, Jesus Christ. Since the Palestinians feel that since they are also from Abraham that they should be a part of all of the same blessings that are bestowed upon the Israelis, this is not true since God said he would bless them but the covenant was not FOR them.

Rather than accept their own statehood, they are selfish and greedy and want to destroy the israelis and take the promise land for themselves. It's an all or nothing choice. They won't accept the west bank and Gaza strip as their own land, they want it all and will not stop fighting until they succeed. Now, they are fighting amongst themselves for power and control. They are a mess and they will never succeed because God has an everlasting covenant with His people. It's not just a contract that can be broken, it is for all time.

Answer 6

Thank you Ivri_Anokhi -- great answer!
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Answer 7

In short, "I WAS HERE FIRST!" - "NO! ME!"