Gorden Brown is a Freemason too!?
Another "link" between the McCanns and Freemasonary? Why would Gorden Brown personally telephone Gerry McCann and say he would give him any pratical or personal help?
"The UK's Independent newspaper, reported that in the UK the Masons were an organization 800,000 strong, represented at the top of the police force, in the government, the House of Lords, the high court, banking, the boardrooms of the largest companies and every part of the establishment.
Gordon Brown is reportedly a freemason.
One lodge recruits only from the Ministry of Defense, among high-ranking officers, and the senior management of the arms industry."
2007-06-28
05:46:55
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Mmmm, ok knownowt..not illegal?
Freemasons and Corruption in the Metropolitan Police go way back..and the position of the Commisioner of the Met. has always been taken up by a Mason.
http://freemasonrywatch.org/true_blue.html
2007-06-28
05:59:28 ·
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John m, the link between this post, Gordon (yes I CAN spell it...it was a typo!) Brown and Gerry McCann is precisely that...a Freemason link. Which explains why Gordon (see, I can spell it twice and get it right...clever eh?) Brown has pulled strings to help McCann.
To who-ever it was asked if I know what a Mason does, (cant be bothered to go back and look up your name), YES, I know what a Mason does. And your point is?
I reposted this question, its the same one I posted yesterday, for a reason. I received a threatening e.mail this morning warning me to lay off with the "freemasons" posts. If it was meant to scare me then too bad, it didnt! I,ll post what I want, when I want, thankyou. If I want to mention Freemasonary in every single one of my posts, then I will. I wont be bullied. If you dont like it, tough!
2007-06-28
07:15:34 ·
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Well arnt you the clever one, whoever is sending these e.mails! Using a proxy so the e.mail is only traced back to an anonymous site. COWARD. If you have something to say to me, say it without the need to hide behind your computer. Or are you too yellow!
2007-06-28
07:41:15 ·
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Heather D..why bother answering the question? You are one of those that like to answer questions just to sneer at them, arnt you? How sad.
No, I m not peddeling gossip, Im doing what many others on here do, Im asking a question, and giving a link to that question. Whats it to you? Are you the idiot thats been sending me e.mails?
If you dont like the question, dont answer it, you silly girl. Just pass it by and GET OVER IT.
2007-06-28
08:25:59 ·
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ermmm, gortamor, sorry but WRONG!
Catholics CAN be Freemasons. I suggest you research your facts before posting next time.
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/roman_catholic_freemason.htm
2007-06-28
12:02:19 ·
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you are wrong.
"Is it true that Freemasonry is anti-Semitic or anti-Catholic?
No. Freemasonry promotes unity and tolerance amongst all men and does not discriminate against any religion. The principles and practices of Freemasonry are compatible with all compassionate religions that teach respect for the deity and tolerance towards one's fellow man. If anything Freemasonry complements the philosophies of these faiths. There are many practicing Catholics and Jews who are Freemasons.
For more information on Freemasonry and Religion download a brochure."
Heres the link- straight from the horses mouth, a Freemason site"
http://www.freemasons.co.nz/faq/
and here-
Can a Catholic become a Mason? There is nothing within Masonry that prohibits a Catholic from becoming a member. There are many misunderstandings by the public, and sometimes even our own members, concerning this issue. These misunderstandings have led to many false conclusions and created barriers .
2007-06-28
22:37:19 ·
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Thankyou Jim g, I appreciate that post very much, you are a very fair man, thanks.
2007-06-28
22:39:31 ·
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Heather, its not the answer to the question Im talking about, its the WAY in which you answered it, you were patronizing and scornfull. There was no need of it. Why not just answer the question "it was a PR exercise"? Why did you feel the need to show off and accuse me of peddeling gossip and tell me to GET OVER IT?
Ive no problem with anyone who disagrees with me, Ive got a problem with people trying to look big by trying to make others look small. Take a leaf out of Jim g,s book......he can be the bigger man and even though he has his own views , he can still be civil to those he disagrees with, and even be open to changing a view. Had you replied in a civil way, then so would I. simple.
2007-06-28
23:02:53 ·
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oh and Heather, Ive since found out who sent the e.mails, so I do apologise to you for that.
2007-06-28
23:04:16 ·
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Hi nmore:)
Yep, the e.mails were very abusive and very sinister. They apparently know where I live and are "watching me"...jerks. They,ll have a bit of a shock if they try to come in my home though, Ive got 2 very protective bull terriers that adore me...lol...
2007-06-28
23:18:10 ·
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and in what way is this a surprise to you? Freemasonry is a fraternal organisation and is not illegal.....
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I didn't say there was no corruption, or it didn't breed nepotism and corruption, what I said was its not illegal to be a member, which it isn't
2007-06-28 05:53:23
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answered by Knownow't 7
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Isn't he also an Orangeman?
FFS, Gerry McCann is Catholic and therefore not a bloody Freemason!
Edit: No, BB, YOU are wrong - as is the information on the website you posted.
This is from our Catholic Encyclopedia:
"In view of these several reasons Catholics since 1738 are, under penalty of excommunication, incurred ipso facto, and reserved to the pope, strictly forbidden to enter or promote in any way Masonic societies. The law now in force [214] pronounces excommunication upon "those who enter Masonic or Carbonarian or other sects of the same kind, which, openly or secretly, plot against the Church or lawful authority and those who in any way favour these sects or do not denounce their leaders and principal members."
Here is the link to it: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09771a.htm
Edit: BB - Did you even READ what I wrote regarding Catholics and Masons? Our Church FORBIDS it.
Also - KofC have naught to do with Masons and are allowed by and connected with our Church.
2007-06-28 16:45:13
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answered by gortamor 4
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OK ,,Question ???? Sure Gordon Brown has to be a Freemason or he wouldn't be where he is ..
The Question I have to anyone who reads this is :What level of the Freemasons is he???
I do know that Tony Blair is and he's a 33rd degree Freemason ..
We the average people only think that the Freemason society only goes to the 3rd Degree but only those who reside in either wealth or politics get to go beyond that and above the 3rd degree is where it gets a bit scarey ...If you don't believe me ,,look up Tony Blair or even Sir winston Churchill who also was a 33rd degree Freemason..
So please someone out there must know to what Degree Gordon Brown has gone in the Freemasons...
2007-06-30 20:02:53
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answered by stu21963 1
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hi bb cant beleive your getting threats some W*****s out there
anyway im with you 100% as you know keep up the good work. I spoke to my father yesterday about the Freemasons and the Catholics have their own branch through the Knights of St.Columba their is an uproar in Protestant F/Masons regarding Catholics using Freemason and i beleive the Grand Master is to sue Catholic one because of this
2007-06-29 05:57:08
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answered by nmore 2
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If Gerry and Gordon are Freemason's, it would certainly explain why this case has had such preferential treatment and why there aren't any of the usual questions being asked, from the parents neglect down to the Limited Company Funds.
2007-06-28 18:30:03
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answered by Ysanne 5
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What is your point?
Gordon contacted the McCanns as it was a great PR opportunity. They were in the news when Mr Blair's resignation was handed in and it all tied in perfectly.
'Reportedly' you really are peddling on gossip here aren't you?
With that many members it stands to reason that there are members in all the organisations you mentioned.
Get over it.
EDIT - 'Scuse me sweetie but I have answered your question or did you not realise that?
I'll answer it again just to make it clear to you.
Gordon contacted the McCanns as it was a great PR opportunity. They were in the news when Mr Blair's resignation was handed in and it all tied in perfectly.
I then went on to express my opinion on the matter, as you did. Jut because people aren't taking your childish rantings seriously don't take it out on me.
And I'm not even going to warrant your accusation of being your phantom Emailer with a denial.
2007-06-28 15:11:02
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answered by Lovely Lady 4
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Oh, who gives a sh!t if he's a bloody Freemason? Half the sodding Protestant world is a Freemason. It's nothing special. And I would suggest the Independent got it rather wrong with 800,000, given that there's at least one Masonic Lodge in every town in the country.
And no one's called Gorden. It's Gordon, you daft bat.
2007-06-28 12:57:27
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answered by Beastie 7
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Rene Artois aka Gorden Kaye is definately a Gorden.
As for the remainder of the answers and questions, I haven't read a clear question yet, much less a clear answer.
2007-06-29 08:54:45
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Dose the Independent newspaper explain why the government has been giving the Freemasons a hard time for the last few years. To me they seem to do a lot for Charity.
2007-06-28 13:18:20
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answered by Anonymous
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I fail to see what the link is between Freemasonry and Gordon telephoning to offer help to the mcCanns.
I personally think they should be charged with abandonment of their child and if they had put 1% of the effort into looking after her they have put into globe trotting they wouldn't have a missing child
2007-06-28 12:57:16
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answered by john m 6
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Have you noticed bb that when they don't understand something they resort to insults and childish replies, to the one who said there are no Catholics in the Freemasons you are wrong, as for the email threats it must be cowards who send them, stick to what you believe in bb, good luck.
2007-06-29 05:31:26
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answered by Anonymous
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