Would anti-abortinists give tax deductions for a fetus?

Question

OK, I'll jump into the debate.

The anti-abortion crew hold to the moral belief that life begins at conception. We are a nation of laws. So, if life begins at conception, which of the following would you allow a week-old fetus to get:

1) A Social Security Card
2) Life Insurance
3) A deduction on its parents' taxes
4) A passport.

If the fetus is a child and a citizen at conception, it should be eligible for all of these things. If you do not think a fetus should be eligible for all of these things, then you belive that a fetus is NOT legally a person.

If a fetus is not legally a person, then the question of abortion becomes a moral issue.

Do you really want the government to be in the position to tell us what is moral and what is not?

Chi Guy - depends upon how you look at it. Is the fetus using these things, or is the MOTHER using them? And if so, what are the legal implications?

whc_warrior: you only start getting the deduction AFTER the baby is born. If your baby is born on January 1, you get NO deduction for the 9 months you were pregnant. But you certainly had expenses related to the baby during those months. So why no deduction?

Beavis: not a valid point. The law says that even illegal aliens have legal status. Are you saying that a fetus is an illegal alien? Then shouldn't INS send it back to its country of origin?

Laughing: you are making my point for me - LEGALLY a fetus is not a baby. If a fetus was LEGALLY recognized as a baby, then instead of the birth date being important, it would be the conception date. Yes, there are many ways a fetus can die before it is born. There are also many ways that a child can die before it grows up. You are saying the BIRTH is a dividing line between what legally IS a person and what legally is NOT a person.

Haha - Government does not tell us what is moral, it tells us what it LEGAL. All the thing I listed are things that any child can get after it is born. If it cannot get them before it is born, then it does not have the same legal status as a child.

I admit, most of our criminal justice system and many of our laws are based on moral and ethical concepts. But they have all been encoded into law, so they have passed beyond being solely a moral issue and become a matter of law.

Answer 1

1,2 and 4 are not feasible since there are many times when a fetus dies naturally before being born. A social security card cannot be issued without a birth date, so, can't be done until born. No insurance company is going to insure a fetus due to the fact that there are many risk factors for an unborn fetus. A fetus travels with it's mother until birth, and , can't have a picture or fingerprints taken, so can't be done. However, a tax break is already given. If your child is born in December, you get the tax break for the entire year.

LMAO! It is obvious you have never had a baby and tried to get an actual conception date. Further, you also have to have a name for a social security number and many parents choose not to know the sex before birth. So there is no name until birth. Death rates for unborn babies are much highter than those for children. Insurance companies work on risk, and they would not risk it. If you adopt a child on January 1st, of any age, you do not get a tax break for your adoption expenses either. Are you saying that child is not a person until you adopt it?

Answer 2

Since a baby only takes 9 months to be born, and there are 12 months in a year, The parents do get a tax deduction for the birth of a child.

Answer 3

Illegal aliens aren't eligible for all those things, but we don't just kill them, now do we?

And, the government already tells us what's moral and not. What about same sex marriage?

Chredon, That was really stupid. I'm just saying plenty of other HUMAN BEINGS aren't eligible, either, and they aren't legally allowed to be killed.

One last thing--if they aren't human, aren't children, aren't legall a person, why is it that in cases where a pregnant mother is killed, the person responsible is charged with TWO murders?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
Obviously, there's some hypocritical thinking going on.

Answer 4

Social services, pre-natal care and welfare are increased dramatically if a woman becomes pregnant.
The kid may not have a social security card or a passport, but it sure has the government's attention.

Answer 5

Is the unborn child utilizing government services of any kind at this moment? Is it using the roads? Is it strolling through state funded parks on its own?