Pro Lifers misunderstood?

Question

Ok this subject seems to come up alot because of the emotional beliefs on both sides of the topic.

I get the idea that Pro choicers believe that Pro Lifers are trying to take away their freedom of choice. Pro Lifers believe that there is just as much value to an unborn life as their is to a full grown one and a practice of taking away that life is not a matter of choice for anyone.. it just should not be done. For instance if you saw a Weightlifter beating up a 2 year old ..wouldnt you stop it? This is how we feel about abortion, someone making a choice of life and death over another life that is helpless. The absolute hate of some pro choicers towards pro lifers is almost to the point of hysteria and im not talking about the extreme fringes of some nutjobs..because believe me i know we got some on the pro lifer side.. this hatred is becomming more mainstream. So just settle down and think of how we are looking at abortion TRUTHFULLY before you go into hysterics..

Ill be watching and responding so check back

To be honest i would love to be a foster parent but i think the law states that you need a married couple. Im a single male. Dont think the current law would allow it

Thats just it you didnt read all what i said. if you were to walk on by a weightlifter beating up a two year old.. or just walked on by some guy sliting the thoat of a woman and said oh thats not my buisness or its a private issue between the two of them that wouldnt make you a very good person. Its much the same with abortion to us (pro lifers) its not about the choice or the privacy. Its about the life of the unborn child that doesnt have a voice of his/her own..if the child could speak and you said to him/her your mama doesnt want you, would you rather live or die now? what do you think he/she would say? prochoicers always use the same argument that "dont mess with my body" but guess what even in conventional science by the time a baby is aborted there is already a separate brain, body, lungs, heart etc... how can that be just your body?

hmm ill have to look into it thanks Kawii..
just always had it in my head that single guy had no chance

For most pro lifers its not about forced slavery of a woman (like i said their are nuts on both sides of the issue) or forced religion..because for me and most other pro lifers its about neither. Most abortions are carried out between week 5 and week 21 of pregnancy ... there is much much more than just a zygote, at week 5 the babies heart has already started beating and their is a nervous system developing. Sorry but at this point whether the woman wanted to or not .. there is someone else inside her body.. its not just hers anymore. This is why i firmly believe that NO one should be having sex until they are ready for the posibility of having a child. Notice i didnt say ready to have a child. I said posibility.. big difference. well im going to bed. got my 2 cents in,

Answer 1

I feel that there needs to be more sexual education and better access to health care and parenting classes if we were to ever get rid of abortion.

I also think that people who feel such as you do should become foster parents as these are where the unloved and often unwanted children end up.

Edit: Actually the majority of states do allow single people to become foster parents provided they pass a criminal background check and can show a stable home environment.
These are some of the universal foster care requirements:
• Age 21 or older
• Criminal background check
• Family stability
• Character references
• Regular source of income
• Home safety inspection
• Family home study/assessment

Edit: If you do look into I will give you props. I may be pro-choice, but a pro-lifer choosing to foster is the right way to do it.

Answer 2

You're comparing a weightlifter beating up a 2 year old. A 2 year old can sustain outside of the womb. A fetus (before a certain period of time) cannot.

The truth is, at conception it's not even a fetus, it's a fertilized egg which is no different than any other cell in your body. However, pro-lifers don't even believe in the morning after pill, they don't believe in planned parenthood, they don't believe in birth control. Which now essentially boils down to forced religion. Pro-lifers are notoriously forcing people who are sexually active to carry a baby to term despite whether the parties involved were partaking with the intent of making and having a baby.

Now you can argue about putting it up for adoption. Which is quite the noble idea. But what if a woman wants to take the "morning after pill" as a precaution after having sex. The pharmacist says no it's against his/her religion. Pro-lifers are saying, you have to carry this baby that you didn't want for 9 months. So then the question becomes who are you to dictate another person's life?

This is also another form of oppression of women. I see the bills they are trying to pass that aren't even making exceptions in the case of rape and incest.

I'm pro-choice (obviously), though I don't agree with partial birth abortions (except to save the life of the mother). I also believe that many times abortion comes up as a viable option it's because the parties involved either didn't intend to have a baby or can't afford a baby. It's unfair to ask a person to carry something for 9 months that they didn't want in the first place. And you can say they should've practiced abstinence, but there isn't any species on the planet that does.

In my opinion, if it can't survive on it's own, doesn't have a social security number and doesn't pay taxes then it's not yet a person. Legal abortion is much better than the alternative of back alley aborotions where the mother died in the procedure.

I never understood how men feel they can have a say in this anyway. They have no idea what's entailed in being pregnant. And what if the woman really wasn't looking at you as a "father", but more as a fling? She has to carry it because the guy wants it? Because he didn't pull out or "it broke"?

I don't hate pro-lifers. I just don't trust them or their agenda.

Answer 3

I think it was much worse 10 or 15 years ago. Becaues of partial birth abortion, it has let people see more shades of gray. So people are not as commonly one way or the other. They might allow the first 2 trimesters, but not the 3rd for example. Pro Choicers were much more hateful of pro lifers in the 90s.

Answer 4

I am against abortion but I don't favor laws against it. I feel that the only way to discourage abortion is to counsel these women and get them the help they need. I think if someone has strong feelings about this, they should go to the clinics and talk to these young women, pray with them and offer them help, advice and understanding instead of using their energy to try and get laws passed that will only make the situation worse (think basements with coathangers) and prohibit women who need abortions for medical reasons from getting one early on before the complications set in.

I think that's where a lot of the animosity comes from. A lot of pro-lifers come off as hypocrites because they will hold rallys and protests and try to change the law and they never actually get involved on a level that could bring about real change. The negative also tends to overshadow all the positive, because there are some pro-lifers who really do care about women and babies and do everything they can to help.

Answer 5

My problem with the entire situation is what is lost in the haze of gunsmoke between the two sides. If abortion were made illegal tomorrow it would not even slow it down. One more law not being enforced is all it would lead to so why are we expending so much energy on such a pointless argument?

Answer 6

Your right, and some people often interchange the two phrases which really annoys me.

Honestly, we don't give people the choice to legally kill an already born human being so why give them the choice to kill a defenseless unborn one?

Answer 7

I think the pro-lifers need to mind their own business. What a woman chooses to do is her business and no one else.

Answer 8

It's not about choice - it's about privacy. Read Roe V. Wade.