does an open border make sense?

Question

If They Can Make It Through the Border
Open for the enemy.


“America is still the land of opportunity,” Senator John McCain recently said. “And we’re not going to erect barriers and fences.”

Unlucky us.

Along with Massachusetts Democrat Ted Kennedy, the Arizona Republican cosponsored immigration legislation currently crawling through the Senate. McCain should recognize that without a barrier or fence, the U.S./Mexican frontier will continue to welcome Islamic extremists pledged to America’s doom.

This is not hypothetical.

“Members of Hezbollah, the Lebanon-based terrorist organization, have already entered the United States across our southwest border,” declares “A Line in the Sand,” a January report of the House Homeland Security Subcommittee on Investigations, then-chaired by Texas Republican Michael McCaul.


The study cites FBI Director Robert Mueller’s March 2005 congressional testimony confirming that, “there are individuals from countries with known al Qaeda connections who are changing their Islamic surnames to Hispanic-sounding names and obtaining false Hispanic identities, learning to speak Spanish, and pretending to be Hispanic immigrants.”

Zapata County, Texas Sheriff Sigifredo Gonzalez told a House International Relations subcommittee last July 7: “If smugglers can bring in tons of marijuana and cocaine at one time and can smuggle 20 to 30 persons at one time, one can just imagine how easy it would be to bring in two or three terrorists or their weapons of mass destruction across the river and not be detected.”

In Fiscal Year 2005 alone, the latest data show 3,308 aliens got caught sneaking into America from nations the State Department considers state-sponsors of terrorism: 3,262 Cubans, 25 Iranians, four North Koreans, four Sudanese, and 13 Syrians. Assuming the Cubans all were pro-American anti-Communists, 46 people remain from terror-supporting nations. A group that size could staff another September 11 more than twice over, or populate seven more Lackawanna Six Islamic-fanatic conspiracies.

Others who were collared that year departed nations in which terrorists thrive, though without government assistance: three Saudis, seven Lebanese, seven Yemenis, 11 Algerians, 15 Afghans, 17 Egyptians, 22 Somalis, 25 Indonesians, 27 Jordanians, and 101 Pakistanis. Let’s hope these 235 individuals tried to break into America to harvest broccoli.

Of course, these are folks the Border Patrol arrested.

“Federal law enforcement entities estimate they apprehended approximately 10 to 30 percent of illegal aliens crossing the border,” that House report states. If true, aliens from terrorist-laden nations successfully penetrated America’s perimeter in numbers three to ten times those above.

May those we have missed be unlike those we have caught:

As children, Dritan, Eljvir, and Shain Duka illegally headed north into the United States across the Mexican border near Brownsville, Texas in 1984, a federal law-enforcement official told Fox News May 9. These Muslim Albanian refugees moved to New Jersey, and eventually became serial traffic offenders. Dritan’s driver’s license was suspended 11 times. Shain’s was suspended on 19 occasions, while Elvir received 24 suspensions. Local sanctuary laws prevented cops from inquiring about the Dukas’s immigration status or subsequently reporting them to relevant U.S. agencies.

Nonetheless, the Dukas’s notoriety deepened. Last May 7, authorities arrested them in the Garden State for advancing a suspected Islamofascist conspiracy to kill “as many soldiers as possible” with machine guns, mortars, and rocket-propelled grenades. As such, authorities say, the illegal-alien Duka brothers represent half of the Fort Dix Six.


As children, Fort Dix Six suspects Eljvir and Shain Duka — seen here last month in Camden, New Jersey’s U.S. District Court — reportedly crossed illegally into America from Mexico in 1984 with their accused-terrorist brother, Dritan.

Mahmoud Youssef Kourani pleaded guilty in March 2005 to providing terrorists material support. After bribing a Mexican diplomat in Beirut for a visa, Kourani and another Middle Easterner’s Mexican guides shepherded them into America. Kourani settled in Dearborn, Michigan’s Lebanese-immigrant enclave, where he raised cash for Hezbollah.

Federal agents arrested Neeran Zaia and Basima Sesi in September 2004 for smuggling more than 200 Middle Easterners — mainly Iraqis, Jordanians, and Syrians — through Latin America and Mexico into the U.S. Zaia previously was convicted of alien-smuggling.

Tijuana café owner Salim Boughader Mucharrafille was arrested in December 2002 for smuggling into America more than 200 Lebanese, including suspected Hezbollah associates.

Beyond Islamic prayer mats among the cacti, Jim Hogg County, Texas Border Patrol agents found a jacket with Arabic-language patches. One reads, “martyr” and “way to immortality.” The other depicts a jet flying into a skyscraper.



Despite September 2006 congressional vote to fence off 700 miles of the southern border, the Senate now backs only a 370-mile partition. This is especially discouraging, since that frontier’s condition is, officially, dismal:

“DHS does not as yet have a wholly satisfactory methodology of determining whether a portion of the border is considered under control from a system-wide, defense-in-depth, and continuously enforceable perspective,” laments a May 1 Homeland Security congressional update. “In the end, gaining control of the border requires gaining control of the entire border, so that as illegal immigration is stopped at one location along the border, it can find no alternate crossing point.”

In the end, Congress quickly must stitch the gaping wound across America’s underbelly. While the U.S./Canadian boundary is worrisome, 1/24 as many illegals traverse it, versus its southern counterpart. While most illegals come here to work, which presents its own challenges, others endure extreme heat and dodge Gila monsters to come here and kill us.

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Answer 1

Holy, dude! You don't expect anybody to read all that, do you? I read about 3 paragraphs, past the part about erecting a fence, so I'll just talk about that.

A fence never has and never will keep people out that want in. They're called wire cutters. They're very easy to use. I know they sell them in Canada and I'm sure they sell them in Mexico as well. A fence is not an effective method of border control AT ALL! The only way to make absolutely sure nobody got in would be to patrol the whole border, and that's just not possible. It's a very big border!

Answer 2

I didn't read all of that either.... but I do believe we need more than a fence. I think that if a fence was constructed than it should go down far enough where you wouldn't want to try to dig under it, and make it tall enough where they can't climb over it (also let's back it with armed military). I also don't agree with these clowns in DC that say hey there Mr. Illegals, eventhough you've been ongoingly breaking the law by staying in this country illegally (as well as taking advantge of our welfare systems) but since you've already been doing it for a number of years, and haven't gotten caught then sure you can stay!! And yeah, bring over the family too!! It's a joke.
Geez, I'm even for putting a fence up on our northern border.

Answer 3

Walls and fences won't keep people out. Walls and fences can be blown up, tunneled under, or scaled over. Besides, almost all of us (unless we're of native American Indian descent) are descendants of 'illegal immigrants' that first started arriving here 400 years ago last month. They didn't bother to learn the natives' language or adopt the natives' culture; they just moved in, took over, put the Indians on reservations, and squandered all of this land's beautiful natural resources. -RKO- 06/26/07

Answer 4

To answer your question; Yes, Mexican Laborers are currently rebuilding New Orleans, a job many in New Orleans feel are beneath them. What would be the difference with what you suggest. A Guest Worker program works to get things done when Americans are unwilling to do the job asked.

Answer 5

If you want to start building a fence around the mexicans, I suggest you start in Santa Ana and work you way down the 5.

Answer 6

The Borders have been open ,that is why we have the problem. The question is how do we keep them closed and also the tunnels closed and the cars and trucks searched.

Answer 7

I know its hard to believe, but the bush crime family is associated with people whose main agenda items are: own and control everyone and everything; become as rich as possible; depopulate the planet substantially. By arranging/fomenting a state of endless war---this helps them to make that money, by selling arms to both sides, and kills off many of "the undesirables".

In the meantime, no borders = cheap labor for their industries, and inconvenience and confusion, anger and hostility among "the effected peasantry" --namely us; thus keeping us "busy" and less "powerful"--divide and conquer? .

Quite a plan, eh? Check out http://www.educate-yourself.org http://davidicke.com and http://www.montalk.net among many other interesting sites on point :)))

Answer 8

we went from mr. gorbachev tear down that wall to let's build a wall wtf is going on with this countries politicians. i don't get it. this country is great because of it's imigrants. we've never needed them more than we do now. they bring an entrepenurial spirit that seems so lacking in our current drive towards socialism. we should be inviting them in instead of discouraging them. as for the few terrorists that get in that is a price i am willing to pay for freedom.

Answer 9

Mexican drug gangs have been terrorizing us for years. Now Mexican methamphetamine is putting mom and pop U.S. meth manufacturers out of business!

Answer 10

It makes about as much sense as taking our guns away that way when criminals break into you homes you won't do something that might infringe on their rights.