and they are passing amnesty for illegals, do YA! cons still think BUSH and his repug crooks care about anyone but themselves and big corporations?
2007-06-26 09:53:02 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Politics
It depends on the union. Some are good and some are lousy. It's clear that Bush's supporters are just voting against their own self-interests.
But hey, at least gays can't marry. And they still hate liberals. And Michael Moore is fat. Right?
2007-06-26 10:05:00 · answer #1 · answered by feline11105 2 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Nice job of creative spin there. The bill that was being voted on in the Senate would have done away with secret ballots in union votes. However, the secret ballot is the only way to ensure that both companies and unions (mostly the unions) don't intimidate the employees. As the secret ballot is the current law, how does voting down its abolishment make it harder to join a union?
How sad that a question like Chimp's is state of civil discourse in America today.
2007-06-26 17:30:27 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
A secret ballot discourages coercion from BOTH sides. Since nobody would know which way the employee voted, Pro-Organization would have to make convincing arguments to everyone (not single someone out) and Employers wouldn't be able to fire people for trying to organize. I know of several instances where people have been fired for trying to organize. Wal-Mart is FAMOUS for it.
For all the people who are mixing apples & oranges, you're making a nice salad and showing everyone your ignorance. Industry Unions (teachers, auto workers, police, etc) are different than Craft Unions (Ironworkers, Pipefitters, Boilermakers, etc).
Before you start badmouthing ALL unions, learn something about them. Unions are still very relevant today for many Trades. Because of traditional Full Referral Unions, many blue-collar workers have a pension and health care. A majority of Field hands in Crafts are temporary contract labor; they have short-term jobs and rarely stay with a company long enough to have benefits. We've had over ten W2s in one year!
2007-06-27 10:08:45 · answer #3 · answered by beth 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Labor Unions served a purpose back in the depression, but anymore they are just bully organizations. They are also the reason big businesses operate from foreign countries. They don't want to over-pay these hourly workers and have to provide them with all the demands from a union which usually includes pensions.
I don't agree with amnesty, but I suppose some kind of plan is better than just sitting there doing nothing.
2007-06-26 17:06:05 · answer #4 · answered by Granny Gruntz 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋
I have to say the reason unions are falling in numbers is not because of Republicans, but because workers see no point in being members of them. Why would someone like myself who is studying to be a lawyer want to be unionized when I can excel and make more than my counterparts in the existing system?
2007-06-26 17:01:32 · answer #5 · answered by The Stylish One 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Labor unions are bad for America & the amnesty is supported by idiots on both sides!
2007-06-26 17:06:05 · answer #6 · answered by Smart Kat 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋
They actually made it harder for labor unions to force themselves on people who may not be interested in joining a union.
2007-06-26 16:57:37 · answer #7 · answered by Brian 7 · 5⤊ 2⤋
Do you really think labor unions are thinking about anyone but themselves? It is this dumb trust in authority, be it republican democrat or or organized labor, that allows all of us to be lead down the wrong roads.
2007-06-26 16:59:24 · answer #8 · answered by Ron B 3 · 4⤊ 2⤋
Most of the labor unions are just taking money away from the people. It's sad but true.
2007-06-26 17:03:34 · answer #9 · answered by wondermom 6 · 2⤊ 3⤋
That's not the way republicans will view this decision. It will allow business to grow and be more healthy and wealthy and the trickle down theory will be in operation, alive and well. It seems the trickle has turned into an occasional drip.
2007-06-26 16:59:19 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 3⤋