Can you at least pretend you have a clue as to how Congress, legislation, and the President interact?

Question

We know you don't have any idea. But just fake it.

Dems have 51% of the seats in the House.
Dems have 51% of the seats in the Senate.

Any time a bill needs to be passed, it requires Republicans to sign off on it. Dems don't blindly tow the party near as much as Republicans.

Lets use the Senate as an example because any higher numbers and I know I'd lose half of you:

There are 51 Democratic Senators.
There are 49 Republican Senators.

Unless all 51 vote the exact same way, Dems will not have enough to pass Dem sponsored legislation.

In the event they do manage to pass a bill, it then goes before Bush so he can veto it.

Once Bush gives it a veto, it is then sent back to Congress. Congress then has to vote again, and if they do not have 2/3 of the vote, they cannot override the veto.

(2/3 of the Senate would be 67 votes, so that would require at LEAST 16 Republicans to sign off on the bill)

I'm gonna post this every day until it sinks in.

Answer 1

You are very arrogant. Oh, and very naive to think that information on this board ever actually "sinks in."

Good luck in your quest!

Answer 2

Excellent job Josh. For those of you who don't "understand the point"; It responds to those of you who naively attack congressional achievements and failures with partisan rhetoric. What is outlined here is obvious. Neither party can achieve a 2/3 majority without the other. In addition, there are two independent candidates that caucus with the democrats. So the real number of true party line senators is split evenly at 49-49. And with a republican president in office, the democratic advantage can be easily nullified by presidential arm-twisting. Something Bush does regularly. Republicans are forced to vote party line while democrats are free to vote their conscience. So when you post your congressional disapproval numbers, remember who those numbers really apply to.

Answer 3

The point of Josh' post is in response to all the Con/Rep questions to the Dems claiming we haven't accomplished anything in Congress. Josh is simply explaining it so the uninformed will not look like such idiots every time they criticize the Dems, because now they know how it works.

Answer 4

I have different numbers

I have 100% of the Republicans being corporate whores

and about 75% of the Democrats being corporate whores

87% of the the elected government supports the corporate take-over of our country

13% of the elected government is attempting to represent the people

The battle for America isn't about Republicans vs. Democrats
(not since Clinton turned the Democrats into the other Republicans)

It's corporations vs. the people

How long can corporate power and corporate propaganda keep so many Americans fighting against their own best interests

Answer 5

Good post. I'd like to add a P.S. that right now the Dems only have 50 votes because that one Senator is still out who had the stroke? aneurysm? something serious like that.

Answer 6

Keep writing on!
It seems a good case to show just how poorly the two party system is not working. Thank you Josh. Hang in there. Kim

Answer 7

properly, yeah! How can they fulfill their divine objective of doing each and every thing they are able to to intervene into voters' lives and punish people who do no longer stay the comparable way they do in any different case?

Answer 8

wait.. I'm confused.. 51% of 51 is 16?

Or is it 2/3 of 67 is 16?

I know 16 is important, right?

Answer 9

Keep it up, Josh. Keep a truth stick on here every day.

Answer 10

A teensy bit full of ourself today?

Thanks for the lesson. Was there really a question there?