OMG! A judge lets off a man for raping a 10 year old girl because "she looked 16!" I thought rape was rape....

Question

no matter how old you are?? The man had previous convictions for sexual assault too. This is the judge who said in another case that an attacker should buy his victim a bicycle! What is the SUN Newspaper doing???????????????? Shouldn't they be campaigning for this judge to be sacked?

I don't read the sun! I found the article on Wiki! I don't think little girls should dress provocatively. When I was raped, in 1991, I was a grown up wearing a long sleeved jumper and ankle length skirt. Clothes don't cause rape!! Perverts do!

Answer 1

well i agree with you, rape is rape, no matter how old the victim is, As for the Sun well you would have thought they would like to take a stand against crimes like this, after all they do like to be the peoples voice, Hmmm guess they feel they can sell more papers putting half naked girls in their paper and support these perverts. It does make you wonder what these judges are up to, could they be in favour of theses perverts, maybe they have a secret respect for the attackers ?

Answer 2

My now ex brother in law just got a drastically reduced sentence (and I think he's out now) for paedophilia, the main reason was the judges had been given a note to take it easy on people because the prisions are full, so what could have been up to 10 years became 10 weeks, and as I say I think he's out now,

Rape is Rape, doesn't matter if she was wearing her birthday suit or a suit of armour. If she led the guy on tho, I'm not taking his side or anything, but I've seen how some young girls act now, if a mature looking girl is leading a guy on for sex then it'll probably end up one way, whilst some guys may really take note of whats going on, some will just go with it without thinking of repercussions. from the sound of this one it probably was the guy that was at fault in all fairness.

Answer 3

Hey, I'm not condoning anyone's behavior here, but maybe the Sun has left out details of the case. The sex may well have been consensual but considered 'rape' as the girl was a minor. He may have been let off as he did not know that she was under 16.

The only reason I am saying this is not because I agree with the judge or with rapists - definately not at all, but I do know of a local case. A girl of 14 had pretended online she was 19 to get this guy and they slept together. Then she cried rape. I don't know all the full details of the case, but the police found other internet conversations on her computer and a list in her bedroom with a load of guys names, addresses and incomes - the man in question was on it. Basically, she was doing this all to get money out of them. The case was dropped with the man, but he did lose his job and was moved to a different department of the building he worked in. I know this as I worked in his department, though just after he left to work on the stands on the shopping centres.

Like I said, I'm not condoning anyone's behavior and I'm very sorry you were raped - it must have been terrifying. It's one of my biggest fears and makes me sick to the core, but the only reason I'm saying this is to possibly make aware that some of the facts MAY have been omitted or exaggerated - you know what the Sun is like. However, I would also like to say that I have never read the article and do not know the contents fully and I appreciate that I cold also be wrong. I just wanted to put another spin on it.

Answer 4

Why are we having a conversation on how this young "child" was dressed??
This "child" was raped...end of..
Everytime we as a society let something like this go un-challenged we allow these judges to move the goal posts further apart for the next criminal....
We now seem to make "reasonable" arguments with ourselves and each other to justify and try to understand why this sentence or that sentence was so lenient.
Sadly if we keep on this vein we'll be making "reasonable" arguments as to why a child is snatched...do the children look just too cute to walk away from?
We've already started to talk about giving paeds help in the community....but don't worry folks...when it goes wrong we can be sure judges like the one yesturday, will go easy because "the temptation was just unreasonably high for someone so sick in the head to be expected to cope with"...
Come on people this child was 10 does it now matter how she dressed....how cute she looked how she acted....It does not matter how women look? dress? act? do we now not have the right to wear what we like because some sick sh** could think your sending the wrong message....should I go to the nearest jail and ask all rapists what their trigger is so I can come back and write them all here so we can be all careful NOT to push thier buttons.
I'm more saddened everyday by what judges give as sentences but what makes me sadder is the way some people help justify it to ease their own outrage and frustration....but then once some people have done that they can go about their lives feeling that actually the sentence was perhaps right and fair when all everythings been taken into account!!!

Answer 5

I saw on the news this morning that they are calling for the judge to be sacked and investigated as he has done this before. He could of given him life but decided it wasn't his fault as she was wearing a thong and frilly bra. Well i'm sorry but since when did the undewear you wear entitle someone to rape you. Plus the fact they said she looked 16, I don't know any 10 yearolds that look 16. Even if she did look 16 he still raped her. What is happening to this country? Sounds like the judge is a peodophile to me.

Answer 6

Outrageous.
Even if she did look 16 years old, surely the second she spoke anyone would realise how young she was.
Like you, I think this judge needs to retire & allow someone with a grip on reality to take over his job.
This sends entirely the wrong message to potential rapists.
This judge has put the justice system back decades with this ruling. Men need to be made to realise that women & girls are not here purely for their enjoyment & are not to be treated like objects. This judge has effectively told potential rapists that its okay to have non-consensual sex with a girl or woman so long as you think she looks like she might want to.
Just because a child is wearing clothes that make her look older is no excuse.
A pervert is a pervert. A rapist is a rapist.

Answer 7

This particular judge has clearly lost the plot. They're not all senile lunatics, but this one should retire or be retired.

But do you seriously believe the SUN newspaper stands for what is right ??? It only stands for what it can sell to you !!!! Letting those jackasses (I wonder if you work at the SUN ?) get involved in any decisions trickier than making up today's problem page would be disaster !

Answer 8

I agree with you. BTW - they actually mentioned the fact that she was wearing a bra and a thong. Now how could you see her underwear unless she was already undressed.
10 years old, is 10 years old. If she was 13, a mature well developed girl could get away with claiming to be 16. But 10!
Lord Goldsmith is looking into this and seeing if there is a case.
BTW I agree she probably did agree to sex, but the talk is of "forced" into the sexual act. But ths is why we protect children by this act. No child can consent to sex. Ever.

Answer 9

I agree.
In all other occupations their is a system which ensures those employed within the role are held accountable, to a lesser or greater degree, for their actions.
Moronic Judge's who make moronic judgements such as the one you describe seem to just get away with it.
Also have you noticed that when sex offenders are released early or as a result of totally inadequate sentencing are they ever then re-housed into the areas where you would expect to find a high court judge living-NO they are not-
Are the probation Hostels etc located in areas where you would expect high court judges live-NO they are bloody not.
The vast majority of the time these sick evil bastards are released back into communities that those releasing them don't even visit let alone live in.
So it's not their kids/Grandchildren who run the risk of being abused by these bastards-maybe that's why the judge's etc don't appear to give a rats ****.
Here is a radical suggestion, when the social workers, judge's, prison boards, probation officers etc release or inadequately sentence these monsters have them re-housed next door to them.
Also if who ever decides these in human ***** are ready to be released, should they re-offend then those responsible for their release should beheld to account

Answer 10

OK WTF is going on. How can the law do something like that. Saying that if a woman dressed provocatively then they ask to be raped is stupid. We all have free will and if a man cant keep it in his pants it should be chopped off. Rape is worse than murder in my opinion coz if some1 is murdered they don't live with the horrible memory but a victim of rape has to live with that horrible memory for the rest of their life. all men and women have free will rape is a choice and if u make a bad choice like that is your fault no one else`s.