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well everyone seems to define god as a all powerfull alll knowing entity that is perfect. So yea and even if he was not perfect then that still means he would be all knowing and all powerful. My point is not what is god but what are his qualities that make would make it contridict itself.
2007-06-25
10:00:01
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people tell he exists and tell there is evidence but show how can you prove a perfect being created a imperfect universe and demands sinfree world which requires a perfect world? Thats sort of like trying to prove theres a circle with sides, even though you cannot ever prove it does exists and cannot find physical evidence it doesnt except that its own meaning is the evidence. A circle is round with no sides.A circle with sides is just as god is perfect with flaws. Because his flaws were creating imperfection and mistakes. his inability to manage his own creations and his
2007-06-25
10:00:24 ·
update #1
that for some reason he cannot overpower the devil because he seems to never be able to and he is all knowing so he should know where he is all times and how to destroy him. Further more christianity is a mythology which also means its a myth just as the greek religion/mythology. They are many others like egyptians, various african tribal mythologies, as well so what makes yours any more proven then theres? Just that you had a bunch of guys writing a book about what you believe? They wrote books too and earlier then you guys also.
2007-06-25
10:00:56 ·
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Also what does morals have to do with beleiving in God?
nothing, In fact the most generated crimes from all religions and mythologies come from those who believe in God. what does that say about you? In fact as well The least amount of crime generated comes from athiests. So what does that say about you? fact is, the nazi's were christians, The europeans were christians and still are, inavded and nearly commited genocide among many native people, creating
2007-06-25
10:01:28 ·
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mixed half native american people with the spanish alot more also by raping them, and steal, plunder as well as well destroy cultures. They did they same to africa and did also to some parts of Asia as well as austrailia. Asia . Although it was not as bad in some Asian countries.They break there Gods commandments in the name of god. self contridiction and very hypicritical.It proves that religion does not have to do with morals
2007-06-25
10:01:59 ·
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The definition and described qualities of god from the bible and christians themselves. The evidence of his non existince was coming from you guys all along. You are the creation of your own downfall in your theory.. Recent History and more earlier history. Can be learned at school if you went to school and no not a religion school. They are plenty of internet sources and you can find sources supporting at Wikipedia about The moral issue.
2007-06-25
10:03:25 ·
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first of all if you do not describe god like this then how do YOU not the other chrsitians and god believers, describe god. Go on eplease tell me. Also I got my human shape from evolution and pregancy as well as my mom and dad having sex. It has nothing to do with god but i bet you would disagree. if you know what is evolution explain the theory of evolution. Go on tell me. Then tell me what are the flaws with it.
2007-06-25
10:11:45 ·
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Mystic you only confirming the fact that god is only an idea and does not exists in The real world, only in your world.
2007-06-25
10:12:40 ·
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You people think i need to go to church? why is that or is that because you assume i have not been to a church? you wanna know something, ive gotten my communion and stuff when i was little like 7. Its easier to adopt kids young like this into religion because there minds are not fully developed and are used to abosrb information. the child learns whatever the guardians teach it and when its mind is developed enough through experience and education it can rationalize much better.
2007-06-25
10:16:03 ·
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In fact hearing the preacher talk all day long even if i used to think they maybe a god did not actually change my life. I changed my life by taking action.
No outside force has changed my life, Ive never met God because he is only an idea , as soon as i realize this i can conquer God by not believing. For if God was all powerful and perfect he could have me beleive in him right now by proving his existince to me. Yet even when I used to have faith in him that he does exists , he never proven himself to me because i was dillusional. I only wanted to beleive not rationalize and see. If god was all powerful and knowing, perfect even the non belivers would acknowledge his presence, the very fact that they are non believers is fact that he does not exists. This is because he is all knowing powerful and perfect. We would have to acknoweldge him because he claims that there is no other surpreme being but him and tries to get people to believe he is real according to the bible and many
2007-06-25
10:21:23 ·
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writings of him. If God was real then that means Japan would have been flooded already. if god was real then every atheist would be converted already. Because not believing in him is a sin so it doesnt make sense. Every Atheists should be swallowed up by a natural diaster then.
2007-06-25
10:23:24 ·
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People claim that they are many things that dont make sense if god is not real but life itself doesnt make sense in many ways itself, even if you took out the idea of god. So what is the need of a god? The only thing is that if you add a god it makes things more controversial because it ignores many facts. Like the universe is made up of many and many make up the universe. If we are created in gods image we should all look alike. That you can make a person from dirt. and a women from a rib. When a women has more then one rib, sine, blood, nervous system, brain , heart, does not make sense at all. `If you actually payed attention in science class you would know about evilution and what it is as well as the theory of it. Science has answered many questions and is everchanging, flexible theory when creationism is not. You cannot have evolution which is part of science with creationism because they conflict in many aspects. Creationists claim everything is created the way it is.
2007-06-25
10:30:51 ·
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This means that all the animals here were always like this and exactly this which science continously proves wrong all the time. Creationism goes againts the fact that life is ever changing and adapting. all you have to do is observe and explore life to know that.
2007-06-25
10:32:12 ·
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I am tired of people claiming nothing makes sense without God. If you faith is so strong, take science classes and dont bail out on them. not 2 science classes but study, Chemistry, Biology, Enviormental and Physics. Try to actually learn what we think. I took catholic school, learned what they thought and figured God is just an idea. Just as Zues is an idea or a 4 sided circle.
2007-06-25
10:35:33 ·
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God does not exists because the concept of god itself is self contridiction.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/divine
God is supposed to be a diety yes, and dieties are devine. The very defination still contridictsa blief in any diety at all . One we do not all look alike and we are supposed to be created in his Image, however we have un attarctive people and buaetiful people so how does this add up?. If his exellence is surpassing it should pass those of satan and therefore he should be able to take over satan because his exellency is surpassing. He is also tends to be described as all powerful. he would also be supreme therefore he is stronger then All anyways. He is all powerful. also if god is so heavenly why arent floods heavenly? How bout plauges?
2007-06-25
10:48:55 ·
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o yea and study earth science also
2007-06-25
13:32:04 ·
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Question is why do you have faith in some thing that can be proven not to exists by the defination of it iself?
That the defination of a god or devine is self contridiction.
2007-06-25
13:33:59 ·
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It makes no rational sense. A all powerful entity thatis the ultimate best stil cannot overcome satan. That is like saying the best fighter ever cannot defeat some random guy. He is supposed to know everything because he created everything. But he does not know how to solve the problem of a fixing sins and if he knows everything he would have known that he created imperfection when he was making it. Thats like saying a person knows how to plan parties but did not know how to plan one for your birthday. He is suposed to know because he is all knowing. Regardless of what you say He is supposed to have those qualities described and what defines a god or being devine. Because those are facts of how a god or devine enitiy is supposed to be.
2007-06-25
13:41:01 ·
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The fact that the world is imperfect automacily disqualifies God existince because he is supposed to be all knowing if he created the universe. He should know for a sin free world you must have a perfect world with no chances of errors open for curroption. And no matter what you say he left them open which automacily makes him either careless which means he is not caring, or cruel, or that he is mentally unfit or dumb. Which automacily disqualifies him being the best, ultimate or all powerful, supreme.
No matter what you try give any excuse. The facts of what a deive entity or god is supposed to be like is there you cannot ignore it. If you do it only shows your dilusional
2007-06-25
13:47:45 ·
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if god wanted something to create to love and care for it why would create so much evil influences in the world? Why would he want adam and eve to be around the presence of evil? does not still make sense.
2007-06-25
14:01:45 ·
update #19
Well on the subject of whether God exists or not everything has to have come from somewhere don't you agree? Something could not have always existed if you go right back through time it had to come from somewhere, so the way I see it is if you go right back through time you get to a point where there is nothing. So there would have to be some sort of magical/whatever to start it off, a trigger right? But wait where did this trigger/magical/whatever come from if nothing exists? Well that’s where the magical part comes in.
I guess what I saying is whether you believe in God or not you must believe that something magical/whatever happened to start it all off.
Maybe the immense mass of nothingness imploded/exploded creating matter and hey presto off we go.
Or maybe someone/something magical/whatever created the world.
That's my two cents worth.
2007-06-25 16:21:55
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answered by Anonymous
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A belief system cannot be defined by 'proof'. These are incompatible ideas. Belief or disbelief in anything has nothing to do with reality.
You believe that there is an entity called 'you' residing within, around or somewhere in proximity of your body. This 'you' is the observer that dialogs with 'something else' about the 'observed' around 'you'.
Does your belief in this prove the existence of an entity that lives outside of the whole universe as an observer called 'you'?
Or are 'you' just a mechanism of memory that has no more substance than any other memory? God can not be different as it also lives outside of the universe as an entity observing us.
2007-06-25 17:32:25
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answered by @@@@@@@@ 5
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It sems that this is an important issue for you and you have spent some time trying to sort things out. Welcome to the club! There are many people trying to gain a better understanding of what this world is all about.
You have taken one strategy, looking at the big picture. You might gain something by bringing it down to a personal level. Try talking to someone that you admire from both camps: Thesist vs atheist. Try to see what there perspective might be. It might strengthen you point of view or provide you with a new wrinkle to contemplate.
Good luck!
2007-06-25 17:18:44
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answered by ? 6
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Unfortunately, you don't go more than one sentance before missing the point. NOT everyone defines God as all-powerful or all-knowing. Many don't even care much for a single monotheistic entity with a capital G.
So even if your diatribe was a cunning retort of Christianity, it's a LONG way from demonstrating that there's no god of any kind.
2007-06-25 17:07:08
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answered by Doctor Why 7
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ok god has to be real because there are to many things that dont make sence if god didnt exist who gave you life (and dont say your mom) how do you explain the moon or the sun not fly everywhere(and dont say gravity and if you did how did gravity come to be)why are we the only planet with life on it? and how is it that the air we breathe is only found here?!?! every thing is to ....convenient
2007-06-25 17:15:23
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answered by danny boy 2
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HI DAD HERE GOD DOES EXISTS TRY WWW.FATHERSLOVELETTER.COM OR T.B.N.ORG ONE. THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO A CIRCLE MY 6 GRADE SAID IN SCIENCE AND MATH YOU HAVE FRONT AND BACK I SAID YOU HAVE INSIDE AND OUT. 4 SIDE TO A CIRCLE I WONDER god DOES NOT NEED US DUST PARTICLES TO STAND UP FOR HIM HE HAS THE HOLY SPRITE TO DO THAT ALL HE HAS TO DO IS TEACH YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ALBERT EINSTEIN BE LIVES IN A CREATOR. GOD HAS NOT BEEN ALLOWED IN SCHOOLS IN 20 YEARS IF YOU CAN READ JOB IN THE BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EARTH BIBLE ON .WWW.T.B.N.ORG YOUCANFIND OUT MORE WWW. FATHERSLOVELETTER.COM READ THE VIDEO N VERSES OH ON T.B.N. LOOK UP THE MUSEUM OF CREATION ITS GOT ALL THE PROOF YOUR LOOKING FOR HOW COME ALL YOU WHO SAY GOD IS DEAD JESUS DIED FOR YOU AND ME THE WHOLE WORLD N WHY DO YOU BE LIVE IN HIS FALLEN ANGEL SATAN? LUV DAD
2007-06-25 18:37:26
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answered by Anonymous
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God does exist,because of ALL the things and because you can't deny the negation.
2007-06-25 17:10:40
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answered by Frida 1
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God exists for those who wish to believe he exists.
2007-06-25 17:11:09
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answered by Mystic 4
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If you say so. You are a defiant one and no amount of words and facts will convince you. If God doesn't exist who gave you your human shape.
2007-06-25 17:08:10
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answered by I'M GONNA GO PLACES 5
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"Gods too decompose. God is dead. God remains dead."
From - Joyous Wisdom, F. Nietzsche. (1844-1900).
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2007-06-25 17:49:56
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answered by Anonymous
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