Do Liberals want the United States to lose in Iraq?

Question

More importantly, are they secretly happy when more service men and women are killed?

If we fail who gains? If we succeed who gains? No need for name calling. i thought libs were tolerant?

Calliope, Are you making excuses for the Clinton administration, they had the original reports? Are you also making excuses for the Liberaks who voted for this war? Also, have we ever pulled out of Italy? Germany? South Korea? It seems like we still have armed forces in those countries.

Answer 1

The fact is that every time an American soldier dies in Iraq, the liberal democrats do get happy, some even openly admit it.

It is a dream of the liberal democrats that we loose in Iraq so they can point the finger at the republican party and tell the American public "see, republicans don't know what is best for you,. We do so you need to vote democrat and let us take control of your lives."

That is the dream of the liberal democrat party.

And for all those who say we should not be in Iraq to begin with, please remember that those same liberal democrats read the intelligence that a liberal democrat under Bill Clinton gave to GW, and they too said we needed to go to war. That is a very documentable fact.


Calliope - While you claim your logic is sound and true, your initial premis is wrong. Liberal democrats including Clinton and Reid voted to go to war and they saw exactly the same information that Bush did . The information was gathered by George Tenent, a Clinton appointee. Further, no one, except for the liberal democrats in the media and Congress are happy over a soldier's death. Their actions make that readily clear. And they are happy because they seem to think that it puts them one step closer to total control over you and me. Finally, if they were so against this war, why have they not voted to defund the war? Do you think Bush or any other president would leave troops in the field with no way to defend themself? And one last note, this war is turning into another Vietnam where Congress dictated what happens of the battlefield rather than soldiers. Look what happened there.

Answer 2

The Libs are fully invested in losing the war in Iraq. They have insulated themselves from the President with a campaign of political attacks for the purpose of increasing their power base. The problem is that it is backfiring. Look at the approval rating of Congress?!?!
The main strategy of the lib media, the democrats, and the movon.org crowd is to make this the presidents war and to put distance between the lib party and the votes they cast to approve the war. Well, this is not the President's war, it is our countrie's war and the responsibility of every free country on the planet. Pelosi, clinton (Mrs.), edwards and their ilk can whine about it all they like. They can even flip-flop and spin until they are dizzy, but it will not change they fact that they voted for the war. They were given a great responsibilty when they took office and now that is not not politically expedient for them to own up to their choices, they try to separate themselves from the unpopularity of the war and make the people forget how gung-ho they were to authorize it. Not to mention that their vote was based on the same info that President Bush used to justify the war.
But that is just like a lib. This whole issue reveals how insubstantial and shallow the libs really are!

Answer 3

#1 There is no "winning" in Iraq. You don't "win" a war in which the occupation of a country is indefinite in order to force culture and steal natural resources. There is no end to it. See Vietnam for more information.

#2 Liberals are NOT the ones who put our boys and girls over there in the first place. Your lovely, right wing, conservative cowboy president placed them there, against everyone's wishes. Half the people that "voted" the war through (as if there was an actual vote) did so out of fear, misinformation, or the stigma of being labled an unpatriotic terrorist.

#3 I am heartbroken when our soldiers die. I want them home. Apparently, since you continue to support a war for oil, politics, and domination, you feel otherwise.

You are a ridiculous, inflammatory little troll.

Edited to Add:

"Calliope, Are you making excuses for the Clinton administration, they had the original reports? Are you also making excuses for the Liberaks who voted for this war? Also, have we ever pulled out of Italy? Germany? South Korea? It seems like we still have armed forces in those countries." -From original asker

Excuses for the Clinton Administration? Nope, none here. While I do think Clinton did better for this country than Bush, Clinton himself was still a corrupt man. Why must conservatives think only in terms of what is directly given to them ("info") by our government? I may be liberal leaning, but I certainly do not believe all the liberal propaganda(amnesty), just as I don't believe all the conservative BS (bigotry).

The "Liberaks"? Such cute mudslinging. A majority of the "Liberaks" voted for this war because of (like I said earlier) the fear and stigma the country was feeling at the time (no one wanted to labeled as unpatriotic, or a terrorist, and to do so would have been occupational and political suicide). Many were snowblowed into the idea by an extremely aggressive presidency. But still, no excuses. Some of them genuinely believed the lies fed to them by the preisdent and his administration. But can you blame someone given false info by a commander? By the person in charge? Hell, maybe you can.

And lastly, you're right---we still occupy many areas. So? Does that make it right? And are we actively invading the other areas you mentioned? Are we actively using our military strength against them?

My whole point though, was not to argue details about every little issue. My point was logical and sound at it's core, regardless of the surrounding politics. You labeled Liberals as people who are happy to see our brave soldiers die. That's ignorant BS, and everybody knows it. it was an inflammatory "trollish" thing to do.

Answer 4

With the exception of those P.O.S.'s in Arkansas and the insurgents/terrorists themselves, I don't think anyone is happy about service members dying (at least that's what I tell myself). As for the liberals - they just have absolutely no idea what war is like. It's not their fault that they are ignorant. They expect us to be able to fight a war in which nobody is hurt (their feeling either).

By the way, Doogie, whether you are kidding or not, be warned that there are people (myself included) that would send you to the hospital in a heartbeat for that little comment. Don't say it around the wrong people.

Answer 5

Obviously liberals do not want the US to lose in Iraq. You should be asking this question to the Bush administration. From the start they have done all they can to make sure our soldiers were ill-equiped, ill-prepared, and following a plan (loosely called) that showed poor knowledge of the enemy. Personally I think the war is already lost. We are stuck in the middle of a civil war with no sign of ending anytime soon. And for that you can thank GW Bush and friends.

Answer 6

Iraq is not ours to lose. The Iraqis seem to be doing a pretty good job losing at the moment by failing to give up their petty sectarian differences and building a democratic society.

Neither liberals or conservatives can get the Iraqis to get along. This is their war to win or lose, not ours.

Answer 7

No. We just point out that
A) we had no business invading a country that never attacked us
B) We are creating more terrorists the longer we stay
C) Bush already lost this war--and throwing away more American lives won't chane that.

Answer 8

So you think that the people who didn't want war are happy to see people get killed and you hold no blame for those who did want war. That is pretty outrageous.

Now what do you suppose we have to lose at this point? It is Iraq's struggle, not ours.

Answer 9

I have never heard of an American wanting America to lose a war. Until I heard Reid, Pelosi, Murtha, Kerry, Clinton (both of them), Kennedy. etc., GLOAT about our casualties and wanting to lose the war I would have never believed it. Lincoln would have these traitors put in jail for sedition.

Answer 10

Even if we do (which is not true) What does it have to do with Republican lead, planned and executed f$^&uped war.

What are you saying liberal feelings are that powerful to screw up a war ?

It is all on you pal!