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whould it be possible to obtain?

2007-06-24 08:07:25 · 4 answers · asked by mike 2 in Social Science Psychology

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I think you might be confusing human conscious understanding with something that is beyond the human mind to comprehend. You ARE universal. You just can't comprehend it on a human conscious level.

People who claim they've had an ultimate sense of enlightenment tend to say that even understanding is lost to them in those moments since understanding is a human tool that just can't encompass the totality of everything.

Imagine the universe (uni-verse = "one song") as an ocean and your conscious awareness is but the crest of a just one small wave - ever so insignificant, temporary, and non-representative of the ocean as a whole. As that wave, you cannot grasp what it is to be the rest of the ocean all at once but you are definitely an inseparable part of it.

It's funny, because I think the universe wanted to see what separated, limited understanding would be like and that separated, limited understanding is now turning around and asking what universal, ultimate understanding would be like.

2007-06-24 09:01:29 · answer #1 · answered by Happy Little Moron 3 · 0 0

Grand Unification theories make that attempt. Unfortunately, most GUTs hail not from our best stab at global, well-rounded "Renaissance" thought. They hail exclusively from physics usually, which is certainly a good place to start. But, a true "grand" comprehension encompasses more than physics and even more than objective assessment. Good science objectively assesses reality without bias. Philosophy and religious dogma fail completely to assess reality and focus instead on the gossamer threads of subjective concepts. A true Universal understanding cannot arise from only the subjective.

"Equipped with his five senses, Man explores the world around him and calls the adventure Science"
Edwin Powell Hubble

Nature is like a train track and Science is like a locomotive chugging down the track. Science rides along on the locomotive and observes the terrain, flora and fauna and environmental weaves along the way. The billowing clouds of coal smoke that spew from the locomotive that are left behind to dissipate and rise in time are like philosophy, to be collected in decanters and sprinkled about in awe, in the belief that the answers to where the train tracks came from or where it is going or who made the tracks lie in the accumulated dogma and mystical "meanings" of the coal smoke.

Also, human-centric world paradigms are flawed in that they are human-centric. We are not the pivot point of the Universe or the pivot point of how everything everywhere is connected. Our Baconian perceptions of Man the Conquerer and Consumer of Nature is an error in thought that foils any possible lucid perception or comprehension of a GUT. Instead, if we are to achieve such lucidity, we have to struggle to perceive "everything everywhere" without subjective bias, without human-centricity, and attempt comprehension of how "everything everywhere" swirls together in whatever patterns and functions there may to discover. Following chaotic formations and following energy from the beginning of the Universe as it ever complexifies in construction is about the closest we can get right now to a Universal understanding.

Unbiased assessment will not in itself provide an ultimate lucidity. Comprehension and meaning for us humans follow objective perception. For example, researchers have found in the energy construction we call human brainwaves, that the human brainwave that matches the electromagnetic mean frequency of the entire Universe is the brainwave we emit when we feel "Compassion". That discovery is an example of objective lucidity.

2007-06-24 15:31:31 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Most people only get glimpses of that ray of light and the sense of intense warmth - oneness with life and the life-force. If they are lucky, they will get it more than once in their life.

2007-06-24 15:15:19 · answer #3 · answered by cavassi 7 · 0 0

Total faith in GOD and the knowledge of the power of love.

2007-06-24 15:27:44 · answer #4 · answered by QuantumB 3 · 0 0

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