So, supporters of gender equality, should we tolerate this?

Question

Verse 4:34 from the Koran

"Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme."

Doesn't this verse support domestic violence for "disobedience" among other things?

billy free: That is in the Koran? Please tell me which verse.

right you are ken: Could you please provide a verse in the new testament that supports your claim?

Answer 1

interpretation of women rights are different in Quran. for example, in Masnawi , there is no any division as ethnic, religious, race, color, gender, nation...everybody are equal and single

Answer 2

It sounds just like christian equality. Men are in charge and that's the way it is baby. After all Eve was created from Adam's rib and was also meant to be sub-serving. Religion is used to oppress people and most of them have been bastardized to fit the purposes of those who hold the power. There never has been a separation of church and state, see Spanish Inquisition for an example.

Answer 3

Hmm...let's see what the bible says about this. A quick google search turned up this:

Genesis
2:22 Woman created from Adam's rib
3:16 Woman cursed: maternity a sin, marriage a bondage
19:1-8 Rape virgins instead of male angels

Exodus 20:17
Insulting Tenth Commandment, considering a wife to be property
21:7-11 Unfair rules for female servants, may be sex slaves
22:18 "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"
38:8 Women may not enter tabernacle they must support

Leviticus 12:1-14 Women who have sons are unclean 7 days
12:4-7 Women who have daughters are unclean 14 days
15:19-23 Menstrual periods are unclean
19:20-22 If master has sex with engaged woman, she shall be scourged

Numbers
1:2 Poll of people only includes men
5:13-31 Barbaric adulteress test
31:16-35 "Virgins" listed as war booty

Deuteronomy
21:11-14 Rape manual
22:5 Abomination for women to wear men's garments, vice-versa
22:13-21 Barbaric virgin test
22:23-24 Woman raped in city, she & her rapist both stoned to death
22:28-29 Woman must marry her rapist
24:1 Men can divorce woman for "uncleanness," not vice-versa
25:11-12 If woman touches foe's penis, her hand shall be cut off

Judges
11:30-40 Jephthah's nameless daughter sacrificed
19:22-29 Concubine sacrificed to rapist crowd to save man

I Kings 11:1-4 King Solomon had 700 wives & 300 concubines

Job
14:1-4 "Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one . . ."

Proverbs
7:9-27 Evil women seduce men, send them to hell
11:22 One of numerous Proverbial putdowns

Isaiah 3:16-17
God scourges, rapes haughty women

Ezekiel
16:45 One of numerous obscene denunciations

Matthew
24:19 "[woe] to them that are with child"

Luke
2:22 Mary is unclean after birth of Jesus

I Corinthians
11:3-15 Man is head of woman; only man in God's image
14:34-35 Women keep in silence, learn only from husbands

Ephesians
5:22-33 "Wives, submit . . ."

Colossians
3:18 More "wives submit"

I Timothy
2:9 Women adorn selves in shamefacedness
2:11-14 Women learn in silence in all subjection; Eve was sinful, Adam blameless

That was just within the first hits.

The bible has many terrible acts in it. Those who believe otherwise have either never read the thing or are to blinded by their own beliefs.

~X~

Answer 4

It would appear to, doesn't it? For years, staunch christian believers had the same stance towards women, and I would imagine some still do.

It shouldn't be tolerated by either religion. When your religion promotes violence and causes you to act against the well-being of another, then it's time for a change. However, the change should come from within the organization itself. We can try to help Islam towards gender equality, but it's up to them to make it happen.

Answer 5

I don't base my views on women, men, or minorities after every sentence of such books.

I'm not a Christian or a Muslim but I've read parts of both of their holy books. I took the good things from it and learned what I can instead of taking every line seriously.

Answer 6

Wives, be in subjection to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. Colossians 3:18

only ONE example from the bible.

No I do NOT tolerate this ;-)

Answer 7

New Testament does not seem to support oppression of women however fundamentalist Christian sects have for years used old testament teachings to support their domination...women submit themselves to their husbands will.

Bottom line - it is not the religion, it is the fundamentalism that leads to spousal abuse and oppression.

Answer 8

thre lord said he shall love her as thy lord god himself.
FORGOT THAT PART, DIDN'T YOU.