Why are Liberals rooting for America to "loose" in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Question

The surge is working. Plain and simple.

- Over 4,000 enemy dead since beginning of surge.
- Former Sunni/Shia insurgents are now fighting for America.
- Violence is way way down.
- Civilian deaths are way way down.
- Iraqi's WANT us there more than ever.
- Hearts and minds are being won everyday.

And we are far from finished... Yet the Democrats and Liberals are rooting for America to "loose" in Iraq. Why?
The surge is working and we are going to win this war. So why are the Democrats and Liberals unhappy about this..

Our soldiers are winning every battle, hands down, while our enemies are coming out hands up. SO WHY ARE LIBERLAS AND DEMS NOT HAPPY....?

- Oh well...We've dealt with traitors and cowards throughout our history and like the rest, you will be dealt with as well.

Answer 1

there you go again with the one size fits all liberal bashing.

Listen very closely, liberals do not want us to lose, but most liberals understand that the war will screw us no matter what.

Understand now?

Also, understand in Vietnam, we won every battle and lost the war because we failed to win the people over in both our country and theirs.

Peace

Jim

Answer 2

This twice honorable discharged veteran wants to know what if anything you have ever done for your country other than talk a good game while real men and women do the job chickenhawks just won't do. Chickenhawks are really big on talking but come up short on tangible action.

Gates And Pace Warn Of Tough Fighting And Higher Casualties In Iraq

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates and General Peter Pace.
by Staff Writers
Washington (AFP) Jun 21, 2007

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday US forces face more tough fighting in Iraq and his top military adviser said the rising level of violence was the "wrong metric" for judging the surge. The comments by Gates and General Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, came as the US military reported 14 US soldiers killed in three days of fighting in Iraq.
Pace acknowledged that levels of violence are now higher than they were before the start of a surge in US forces in January, but both he and Gates said it was because more troops are moving against insurgent sanctuaries.

"We certainly hope and pray that that level of casualties will not be sustained, it will not continue," Gates said. "But they are in the middle of a battle and we just will have to deal with that."

On Thursday alone, six US soldiers were killed, five of them by a roadside bomb in northeast Baghdad that also killed an Iraqi interpreter and three Iraqi civilians.

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Gates_And_Pace_Warn_Of_Tough_Fighting_And_Higher_Casualties_In_Iraq_999.html

Answer 3

For one thing, violence is up in Afghanistan. One of the top articles on yahoo! news tells us that more civilians there are dying by American hands than by militant attacks.
And for another thing, who is ever happy in war?
Stop pointing fingers and putting the blame on others; analyze the situation rationally, without a red, or blue, tint. It helps you, and our country, in the long run.
How much can you really trust former insurgents? We're giving them weapons now; what's to keep them from turning on us? Hearts and minds are being ever day, you say. True, but they are also being lost. We are not doing enough, and we are not helping them enough. On CNN, they gave statistics that European countries, such as Sweden, are taking in tens of thousands of Iraqi refugees to help them. The US, on the other hand, is taking in 1 a month. We need to build schools there; we need to give them a purpose, an identity. We need to help the world, and how in the world can we ever do that if we just keep rambling and destroying our own unity?
Be noble. Be American. Throw away the ridiculous labels that only hurt our country in the long run.

Answer 4

I think you mean lose.

How do you win a civil war in another country?

What was our mission again?

- Overthrow Saddam. Check.
- Destroy WMDs. Oops!
- Establish a Democracy. Check.

I'm confused as to what is left and what we are fighting for in Iraq. That's why the liberals and the rest of America aren't happy with the Bush administration's handling of this war.

Answer 5

Violence is way down? We have had 25 combat deaths in 4 days! What definition are you using?

How many civilians dead since the surge:

Jun-07_ 1016
May-07_ 1980
Apr-07_ 1821
Mar-07_ 2977
Feb-07_ 3014
Jan-07_ 1802
Dec-06 _1752
Nov-06_ 1864
Oct-06_ 1539
Sep-06 _3539
Aug-06_ 2966

What poll are you using for Iraqis wanting us there?

This is the last I have seen and it doesn't seem to jive whith your rhetoric, or is that just Fox news?

"In Baghdad, for example, nearly three-quarters of residents polled said they would feel safer if U.S. and other foreign forces left Iraq, with 65 percent of those asked favoring an immediate pullout, according to State Department polling results obtained by The Washington Post.

Nearly three-quarters of residents in one poll said they would feel safer if U.S.-led troops left Iraq. Some Iraqis say they believe the U.S. presence has fueled sectarian warfare. (By Samir Mizban -- Associated Press)

Another new poll, scheduled to be released on Wednesday by the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland, found that 71 percent of Iraqis questioned want the Iraqi government to ask foreign forces to depart within a year. By large margins, though, Iraqis believed that the U.S. government would refuse the request, with 77 percent of those polled saying the United States intends keep permanent military bases in the country."

No one is rooting for us to loose. We attacked Iraq illegally, but Saddam has been taken out. Gen Patraes, the commanding general in Iraq says there is no MILITARY victory to be had! He is not the ONLY General to say that!

Why do you want to keep getting troops killed and maimed in a sectarian civil war that we are not going to win, ever!?

Control 0f less tham 1/3 of Baghdad, and that is but one town, is hardly a glowing success!

I love idealogs. NO PROOF, just rhetoric! And most lies at that!

Being able to see the handwriting onn the wall is not a sign of being a coward. It is being unable to see it and make changes accordingly is what got us where we are. Not agreeing with you does not make one a coward! I didn't see you in Vietnam!

Answer 6

Now all you need is RonOld RayGun pushin 20 Mule Team Borax Soap and you've got the make-ins of a fine propaganda film...complete with sponsor

Willful Ignorance......

The preferred disease of 9 out of every 10 Republicans

(10 out of 10 when the willful ignorance is dipped in racism and class hatred)

Answer 7

4000 enemy dead........enemies of who exactly.the US or Iraq

Sunni and Shia insurgents are fighting each other as well as the occupying forces

Violence is not way way down it continues every single day

Civilian deaths...see above

Iraqi's most definitely do not want you there.A vast majority feel that when the occupying forces leave,things will become calmer.

Hearts and minds are being blown up every day.

Answer 8

Nice party talking points. How much was your own opinion and not spoon fed to you?

and by the way...

Lose, v. t.:
To cease to have, to fail to obtain

Loose, v. n.
To relax; to make less strict.

Here are some simple examples:

You lose your job when you get fired for making silly mistakes.
You don't loose your job unless you release it from a cage.

- Words mean things...

Answer 9

That's funny. My husband is IN Iraq right now, and he says violence is NOT down. And while SOME Iraqi's want us there, there are just as many who want us out. Yes, thousands of enemies are getting killed. BUt the more that die, the more come out of the woodwork to take their place. We're not rooting for America to lose. We just want the white house and the pentagon to either make a plan that works, or pull our people out of there. Right now what they're doing is NOT WORKING.
Call me a traitor and a coward all you want, but I support my husband and all of his colleagues 100%. I just think they should be given the respect to be treated as valuable human beings and not sacrificed unnecessarily.

Answer 10

bad for Dems in the polls if we win. As for Ryan try talking to a soldier and ask how things are going. The media is just there to get ratings truth be damned. Only forms of life lower than a sex offender are career politicians and reporters.