Question for those skeptical of man-made global warming?

Question

Please consider the following, and review the links if you don't believe the claims:

1) There is a consensus among climate science experts that humans are the primary cause of the current global warming:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AgCxBALgHOtjhactMX_WFDjsy6IX?qid=20070623154358AAMwRrZ

2) They have come to this consensus because measurements and models cannot account for the recent acceleration in global warming from "natural causes" including the sun. Since 1960, they estimate that 70-95% of global warming is due to greenhouse gases:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Climate_Change_Attribution.png

3) The consequences of not slowing global warming will be very bad within a few decades, at most.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ArWwA7u27SODHeZEr2j6ctTsy6IX?qid=20070623160517AAcvFGc

Considering this evidence, are you still skeptical that humans are the primary cause of the recent global warming, and if so, why? Rational answers, please.

Is anyone going to answer the question? My statements are based on scientific studies which are linked within my YA question.

Absolutely terrible answers so far, dismissing the data because of where it's linked from. Pathetic, but confirms the irrationality of global warming skeptics.

18 "answers" and not a single rational one addressing my question and evidence. This is sad...

Answer 1

Consider this. Man has conquered a number of factors that once controlled the population on the planet. We kill off all the natural predators of mankind. We developed artificial environments to survive the colder climates. We conquered diseases. Large scale wars that eliminate large masses of people have been halted.
There's nothing left that will wipe out a large enough percentage of the population to prevent further over population. That is except for global climate change.
The earth will achieve balance.

Answer 2

1. There is NOT a consensus among anyone except those that are funded by orgs that push Global Warming. In fact many Climitologist have lost, or have been threatened with losing, their jobs.
2. NONE of the climit modeles include water vapor. Water vapor is responscable for 95% of the greenhouse effect. The models also don't even inclued effects of the sun. It has been shown that the sunspot cycle perfectly matches climate swings.
3. NO ONE knows or can acurately predict what the effects of Climate Change will be. In fact it is likely that more positive than negitive changes will occure.... Such as making Siebera more habitable... or extending the growing season in Iceland

The Whole Global Warming thing is a Scam to get control of your life.... as was the predictions of the Comming Ice Age in the 1970s....

Answer 3

YES!!!

That is your problem. You are basing your "consensus" on models. Models can't predict anything. Models can give us a rough (and I mean a rough) estimate on what scientists THINK will happen. You say the models cannot account for the warming....is it possible that the models are broken/unreliable?

They ESTIMATE that 70 -95% of global warming is caused by man... you got the word estimate, didn't you?

Also, as aforementioned, consensus proves nothing. I bet there was a lot of scientific consensus that the earth was flat 500 years ago. Ever heard of Eugenics?

All I want is some PROOF showing the exact percent of the observed global warming that is in fact attributable to man. That separates us from Al Gore's zombies - we want to see proof before we start flinging money at a problem that a "consensus" of scientists "estimate" could possible be a problem in 30 years.

In science, you make an estimate, then perform tests in order to determine its accuracy. Then you run more tests to ensure its accuracy.

You shouldn't fearmonger based on estimates.

Great answers so far, btw.

Answer 4

Well I don't go to Internet links. Try going to the UC Berkeley or UCLA websites. 2 very "Progressive schools".
Or pick any 20 Prominant Universities in the United States, Canada. The Canadian Science Minister, backed by 17,000 plus Scientists, says that there is NO evidence to suggest Man Made Global Warming.....
When coming out of the Great Ice age, as the earth warmed, what did Neanderthal, and Man do to cause that?
We began to come out of a "Little Ice Age" in the mid 1800's. Yes the earth as is natural. The earth cooled an estimated 3 degrees between 1200 and 1850 approx. Earth has warmed about 1 gegree since then.
If the Earth warms at it's current rate, in 250-300 years it is predicted the Earth will be about the same temperature as it was at the time of the Greek and Roman Empires.

Answer 5

One of the key words that you've presented is CONSENSUS
which, if you understand how the IPCC works is why so many of the world's leading scientist's have denounced the findings of the IPCC for their adamant refusal to include scientific data which fails to support the original basis for the Kyoto Protocol. The UN, in order to get their preconceived agenda across, was forced to publish a report based on consensus, which is lacking the full scientific communities sentiments but is instead a report that relies upon the consensus of the remaining, many of whom were from countries with a financial stake in the outcome.

Among those who quit the IPCC group were the head of meteorology of MIT, one of the foremost experts in the world and field from what is arguably one of the most highly regarded scientific centers in the World. He was joined by France's top scientist, most of the top meteorologist's in the UK and Canada. Together, they have published a counterclaim to the IPCC's report which is every bit as compelling and seems to have considerably more scientific give and take.

But there's one very major and glaring difference and that is that none of these men had anything to gain..........not a dime.

I could go on and on as the Asker has and post endless self serving links which no one will read anyway.

Answer 6

Yes, I am skeptical. "Consensus" is not science. Science is producing irrefutable facts. There are many scientists who do not agree man has a major effect on global warming.
The Sun has been producing global warming for about 5 billion years.
Over the past 40 to 50 years radiation from the sun has increased. The polar ice caps on Mars are shrinking. That can only be caused by the Sun

Answer 7

The reason people like me are skeptical of "climate science experts" is because the deck is already stacked with them. Only people who already believe in global warming would go into the field. It's similar to saying "Well, there's a consensus among theologians that there is a God. Since they are experts in the field, they would be the ones to know, therefore there is a God." If someone thought that global warming was a crock, why would they spend years of their lives studying it?

That is why I take what these experts say with a grain of salt.

Answer 8

I have doubts because most of the people arriving at this "consensus" are politically motivated. The evidence in my judgement is being slanted to blame humans.
But even so, the only way to reduce greenhouse gases (with the idea we cause it) would be an very quick reduction in the human population. From the 6 billion now here to under 1 billion. Now how do you suggest we reduce our population by those numbers?

Answer 9

yes, climate changes were going on long before the internal combustion engine and large industry. the sources for CO2 are endless. sun spot activity has been increasing steadily of the past 25 years. I think that any mortal man who thinks that we can make even the slightest bit of difference in what happens by making the changes that the global warming theorist say will stop the problem are ignorant fools. we just need to try and be efficient as we can and adapt as we can and quit running around spewing all your blame civilization crap.

Answer 10

Yes. Because my weatherman can't tell me an accurate forecast 2 days from now let alone 100 years.

And oh yea ... a "consensus of scientists" is as valid as a "consensus" of any two, three, four, hundred, or a thousand people thinking that man evolved from monkeys or that blacks should be owned as slaves or that the world is flat, or that Christians are "infidels" worthy only of death ...

What brought about the first ice age that supposedly killed all the dinosaurs? Isn't there also a "consensus" of scientists that say it was global warming? And this same "consensus" says man wasn't around then ... so ... hmmmm