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I have to turn this homework problem in by Monday! Please help! Hurry!

2007-06-23 06:11:32 · 5 answers · asked by Scythian1950 7 in Science & Mathematics Mathematics

There IS an explicit expression for the indefinite integral. Don't say it can't be done.

2007-06-23 06:12:46 · update #1

Frank, the placement of the parathenses is the way I've got it. Your suggestion changes the problem.

2007-06-23 06:52:07 · update #2

I definitely need a closer look at smci's answer, so I've extended this question.

2007-06-25 12:01:07 · update #3

smci, you came close. The subsitution q = 1/(1-x)² - 1 seems fruitful, but had the integral been √(1-(1/(1-x)² - 1)²), it would have led to a simpler result, not far from what you've done. However, because it's √(1+(1/(1-x)² - 1)²) (see the + sign instead of the - sign), even with this substitution, it still leads to the same form of solution as suggested by Wombat below. Your effort was heroic, though, and I've spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out what went wrong.

2007-06-25 16:03:32 · update #4

5 answers

When you see the standard forms 1/(1-x)² or √1/(1-x)²
you start thinking a trigonometric or hyperbolic substitution.
I think the most promising substitutions look like involving:
csc θ = √(1 + cot²θ)
cos θ = 1/√(1 + tan²θ)
sec θ = 1 + tan²θ

I = Integ √(1+ [1/(1-x)² - 1]²) dx

Then if we set:
[1/(1-x)² - 1] = cot θ

this reduces the integral
I to just Integ sec θ dx = Integ sec θ
but dx gets more complicated
Still I think that's the way to go.

1/(1-x)² - 1 = cot θ
-2dx/(1-x)³ = -csc²θ dθ
(-2/(1-x)) (1/(1-x)²) dx = -csc²θ dθ
(-2/(1-x)) (1/(1-x)² -1 +1) dx = -csc²θ dθ
(-2/(1-x)) (cot θ +1) dx = -csc²θ dθ

To eliminate 1/(1-x) factor, from above:
1/(1-x)² - 1 = cot θ
1/(1-x)² = 1 + cot θ
1/(1-x) = √(1 + cot θ)

Now can we can get dx by itself:
(-2/(1-x)) (cot θ +1) dx = -csc²θ dθ
-2√(1 + cot θ) (1 + cot θ) dx = -csc²θ dθ
2 (1 + cot θ)^(3/2) dx = csc²θ dθ
dx = 2 csc²θ (1 + cot θ)^(3/2) dθ

Finally the transformed integral is:
I = Integ √(1+ [1/(1-x)² - 1]²) dx
= Integ sec θ dx
= Integ sec θ * 2 csc²θ (1 + cot θ)^(3/2) dθ
= 2 Integ sec θ csc²θ (1 + cot θ)^(3/2) dθ

Want to eliminate the ugly (1 + cot θ)^(3/2) factor:
(1 + cot θ)^(3/2) = (1 + cos θ/sin θ)^(3/2)
= (sin θ/sin θ + cos θ/sin θ)^(3/2)
= ((sin θ + cos θ)/sin θ)^(3/2)
= ((sin θ + cos θ)/sin θ)^(3/2)

Then:
I = 2 Integ (1/cos θ) (1/sin²θ) (sin θ + cos θ)^(3/2) / (sin θ)^(3/2) dθ

This is a polynomial you can crank out one way or the other,
e.g. by transforming to a polynomial in one of these fns:
I tried: s = sin θ
ds = cos θ dθ
=> dθ = √1-s² ds

I = 2 Integ (1/√1-s²) 1/s² (s + √1-s²)^(3/2) / s^(3/2) √1-s² ds
= 2 Integ 1/s² (s + √1-s²)^(3/2) / s^(3/2) ds
doesn't look nice, so let's transform to q = cot θ instead:
sin θ = 1/√1+q²
cos θ = q/√1+q²
csc θ = √1+q²
sec θ = (√1+q²)/q
dq = -csc² θ dθ = -(q²+1)/q² dθ
dq = -(1 + 1/q²) dθ
dθ = -q²/(q²+1) dq

I = 2 Integ sec θ csc²θ (1 + cot θ)^(3/2) dθ
I = 2 Integ csc³ θ √cot θ dθ

or I = 2 Integ (√(1+q²) /q) (1+q²) q^(3/2) (-q²/(q²+1)) dq
I = -2 Integ q^(5/2)√(1+q²) dq but that goes nowhere

So: I = 2 Integ csc³ θ √cot θ dθ
Further substitution:
p = cot²θ
csc θ = √(1+p)
dp = 2cotθ (-csc²θ dθ)
dp = -2p(p+1) dθ
dθ = -dp/2p(p+1)

Hence:
I = 2 Integ csc³ θ √cot θ dθ
= 2 Integ (√(1+p))³ (p) (-dp/2p(p+1))
= - Integ √(1+p) dp

Yet another substitution gets us to the solution:
n = √(1+p)
dn = dp / 2√(1+p) = dp/2n
dp = 2n dn

I = - Integ √(1+p) dp
= - Integ n (2n dn)
= - Integ 2n² dn
= - 2/3 n³ + C
= -2/3 (1+p)^(3/2) + C
= -2/3 (1+ cot²θ )^(3/2) + C
= -2/3 (1+ [1/(1-x)² - 1]²)^(3/2) + C
SOLUTION!

where we applied the back-transformations:
n = √(1+p)
p = cot²θ
q = √p = cot θ = [1/(1-x)² - 1]

[This took me 2.5 hrs... I guess this one beats Matlab and Mathematica's heuristics]

2007-06-23 09:37:40 · answer #1 · answered by smci 7 · 0 0

It can't be done.
You need more parentheses'
sqrt((1+/(((1-x)^2) -1))^2) ?
If so then the integration is very complicated with 8 terms having sqrt and ln. You would need a CAS to solve by Monday.

FWIW Maple7 won't take your equation as written though Mathematica does.

Why are they doing this to you?

2007-06-23 13:49:15 · answer #2 · answered by ? 5 · 0 0

It can be done, but it's insane.

I plugged it into the intregrator at wolfram just to see what answer we're aiming for, and there's no way I could even approach that problem. The answer involves literally dozens of terms, many of them complex, as well as three other functions.

To see it for yourself, go to http://integrals.wolfram.com/index.jsp and input the following: Sqrt[1+(1/((1-x)^2)-1)^2]

2007-06-23 13:32:05 · answer #3 · answered by TFV 5 · 0 0

It does exist, but it's complex, and It's extremely ugly, involving elliptic integral functions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic_integral

Here's what Mathematica gives me
((Sqrt[1 + (-1 + (-1 + x)^-2)^2]* (-1 + x)*(1 - 4x + 10x^2 - 8x^3 + 2x^4 + 2i Sqrt[-1 - i]*(-1 + x)*Sqrt[-i + (2 + 2i)x - (1 + i)x^2]* Sqrt[I + (2 - 2i)*x - (1 - i)x^2]*EllipticE[ i*ArcSinh[Sqrt[-1 - i]*(-1 + x)], -i] - (2*(-1 + x)*Sqrt[-i + (2 + 2i)x - (1 + i)x^2]*Sqrt[ i + (2 - 2i)*x - (1 - i)x^2]*EllipticF[ i*ArcSinh[Sqrt[-1 - i]* (-1 + x)], -i])/ Sqrt[-1 - i]))/(1 - 4x + 10x^2 - 8x^3 + 2x^4))

I retrospect, there's probably some type of human error involved here.....

2007-06-23 23:17:17 · answer #4 · answered by WOMBAT, Manliness Expert 7 · 0 0

This function can not be integrated

2007-06-23 13:47:36 · answer #5 · answered by Shivam_007 3 · 0 0

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