Why do liberals not understand the difference between "Right" and "Popular"?

Question

I just saw a question asking if Clinton was such a bad prez, why was his apporoval rating so high, even after impeachment. You also hear liberals constantly justify retreat and surrender in Iraq because of the poll numbers. Chris Mathew can't make one single point without bringing up poll numbers. What do you think the poll numbers were in 1860 about freeing slaves? What about 1940 polls on women voting?

The fact is that the popularity of a position is completely different than the righteousness of a position. And NEVER should a war be fought by voters or even politicians. You might as well put a 6 year old in charge. Why can't liberals understand this?

OK, Chi Guy you just discredited yourself by saying "neo-cons lied to start a war." That is the oldest most discredited lie on the books.

rhub, I'm not talking about elections. I'm talking about POLLS and their numbers. If we lived in a Democracy, the polls would be a part of the government process. BUT WE DO NOT LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY! We live in a REPUBLIC. In a republic, you elect representatives to act on your behalf for a certain period of time. In the case of a prez, that's 4 years. That means for 4 years, Bush is the RULER and you will like it, until the next election. Get it straight!

Answer 1

Why do liberals not understand the difference between "Right" and "Popular"? Liberals can and do. They support MANY things that aren't popular, because it's the best thing to do. Many Liberals oppose the death penalty, even though it's not popular to oppose that. Many or most

Liberals also opposed Bush even when his lies and propaganda made him popular. I remember he and his drones called us disloyal for daring to questions Bush on anything and many people agreed with Bush out of fear and Liberals were attacked. Even so, Liberals opposed the rush to war before it began, and opposed the popular but wrong Bush tax cuts for big corporations and the very richest elite which Bush and his minions lied about claiming they go mainly to middle class / regular Americans.

Right wingers on the other hand, lie and trick people because what they want to do is wrong AND unpopular, such as taking us to war. Right wingers Bush and Cheney lied to the Congress and the American people to trick us into attacking Iraq.

The war was and is still wrong and so the right wingers had to keep lying and lying over and over until enough Americans were tricked into supporting a horrible mistake and an illegal immoral policy. This is typical of right wingers. They do the wrong thing and lie almost all the time.

Liberals show moral courage and stand by principles. Right wingers do whatever they think will increase their power and control. Big deficits. Big spending programs. Right wingers do whatever they want and lie about it.

Answer 2

Our government is based on the idea that our leaders must have the consent of the citizenship. Accurate polling represents the will of the people and therefore carry water regardless of judgment calls of right or wrong.

That is not to say that our leadership should just read the daily polling and act accordingly. There is an amount of room for them to do the "right thing". But our politicians run the risk of backlash when they ignore public sentiment for months and years. This is what happened last election cycle in my opinion.

Answer 3

The difference between Lincoln and GWBush is that the Civil War was necessary for the preservation of the Union.

The Iraq War was not.

Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda BRAGGED about the 9/11 attacks and instead of using all our resources to bring them to justice.. we go into Iraq?????

Had we remained focussed on Osama and Al Qaeda, we would have caught him and abolished Al Qaeda by now, no doubt about it.

Yet here you are squawking about liberal this and clinton that as if GWBush has NOT completely screwed up at every turn.

Get a clue, skippy, and until you do, stay at the kiddie table where you belong. The grown-ups are trying to have an intelligent conversation.

Answer 4

well first of all, I am about as liberal as they come

and let me tell you something about Bill Clinton. He was no liberal. He was a moderate, and a bad one at that. The reason people seem to think he was liberal is because he went on MTV and told everyone he smoked weed and wears boxers. He's the hip president who likes getting head and plays the sax.

There is nothing righteous about the war in Iraq, and the poll numbers have nothing to do with it. It has to do with our poor soligers in Iraq being con-ed into thinking they are dying for anything more than a rich man getting richer.
There is nothing righteous about what we are doing right now.
The only thing we have done is cause a domino effect of governmental instability and the rise of power of religious fundementalism powered terrorism though out the world.

and what the hell are you talking about with 1940 and women voting. women got the right to vote in 1919 thanks to alice paul.

Answer 5

We all have a lot to learn. Who decides what's right and popular? What ever the majority of the people want we should get. The peaceful people of this country deserve to be in control. Obviously, neither Republicans nor Democrats fit that bill. Stop blaming liberals for everything. A true liberal should not believe in war. Neither should a "true" conservative.

Answer 6

Why can't conservatives understand that their version of "right" isn't necessarily the world's version of "right".

I have said this many times. Righteousness and faith have been used many many times to push and agenda that we would call abhorent. Just look at Nazi Germnay, or Stalinist Russia. What they did was for "the greater good", and indeed the populace went along with it.

Better yet, look at WWII Japan. The Kamikaze pilots believed that it was a PRIVILEGE to slam their bomb laden planes into US ships for their Emperor.

Look at the suicide bombers in the Middle East. For them, it's an honor to blow themselves up in the name of their religion.

All of these examples demonstrate people who ardently believed their version of "right".

Righteousness is little more than someone holding a big stick yelling at others that they are right.

At least voting "popular" is what the people want.

~X~

Answer 7

You're question is totally oblivious of history

Most advances made in the United States of America began with the unpopular efforts of liberals, fighting for what was "right", in the face of "popular" opinion

From the initial efforts of our founding fathers.....the early works of the abolitionists...the first union organizers....the first women to insist on the right to vote...the movement to end children's suffrage....Medgar Evers and the beginnings of the Civil Rights Movement...Cindy Sheehan and stopping a war for profit based on lies and innuendo...to the environmentalists who first warned of Global Warming.......liberals have always taken the forefront on the important issues, the important advances that have made America great.

It was in fact the conservatives who have stood on popular opinion and fear of change with every advance our liberal brothers and sisters fought and died for.

Turning history upside down and selling lies as truth because they fit your beliefs does not an honest person make.

Answer 8

Why bring up freeing slaves and allowing women to vote, especially when conservatives railed against both?

Clinton hasn't been president for six and a half years.

Try to focus your obviously limited intellectual capacity on the crimes of the Current Occupant.


Note to "Peace Warrior", a most superior answer. Well done.

Answer 9

I understand the difference between hiding the truth &
having a conscience.
I don't care what Clinton did in his private life, the fact
that 3400+ young Americans have lost their lives &
600,000 innocent Iraqi's are displaced, disturbs me.
You don't comprehend a word I wrote, I understand that.

Answer 10

liberals use the PREAMBLE of the form to NEGATE something of the form.... they are no longer at a loss for words its their plan...The Preamble serves fullyyt as an creation, and does no longer assign powers to the federal government, nor does it furnish particular obstacles on government action. through Preamble's constrained nature, no courtroom has ever used it as a decisive element in case adjudication, different than as regards frivolous litigation.