Are liberals making a hypocritical statement about the Constitution?

Question

George W. Bush didn't win the popular vote during the 2000 election, but he won the electoral vote, which acording to the Constitution the electoral vote what a canidate needs to win. So why are liberals saying we should get rid of the electoral vote so Al Gore can be president, but what George W. Bush is doing under the Patriot Act and in Iraq in general unconstitutional?

Answer 1

ABSOLUTELY ITS A HYPOCRITICAL STATMENT. IF A LIBERAL ISNT INVOLVED, ITS WRONG AND THEY WANT A DO OVER, IF THEY ARE, THEY DESERVE IT..ITS RIDICULOUS. the non taxpaying territorial vote grant of those who just "happen" to be liberal is another example. clinton tried it, it was defeated in us appellate court, pelosi will eventually be defeated as well.

Answer 2

I think it is funny that you claim liberals want to dump the electoral college. I heard a lot of that from Republicans not that long ago. Each side is looking for what they perceive as a slight edge over the other side. The Constitution, you know the goddamn piece of paper according to George W. Bush, we have an electoral college who elects the president. It was put there to protect the small states like Rhode Island and Connecticut. When people make a statement decrying the 2000 election they are pointing out the beginnings of the corruption that has been a mainstay for the Bush Administration. I don't believe anyone seriously expects the law to change. It would take a 2/3 majority of states to ratify a constitutional amendment to make that happen. That is unlikely as there are more states with populations closer to Connecticut than California.

Answer 3

Because the Electoral College is spelled out in our Constitution, it requires an amendment to change it. While I do agree with the liberals that is unfair to those living in more populated states, it would require a 2/3 vote in the house & senate to launch the amendment & ratification by 3/4 the states to make it law. This will never happen because the smaller states like the idea of one vote there counting as 10 votes in a state such as California. Some Americans are just too thick headed to know the popular vote means nothing.

Answer 4

The two things aren't related. Liberals aren't the only ones who would like to see the electoral college abolished, there are Independents and conservatives who think so as well. You would agree yourself had Al Gore won in 2000. The Electoral College was put in place to help expedite election results but has outlived its usefullness. Since it is in the Constitution however, an amendment would be required to get rid of it. Calling for such an amendment as many Gore supporters have, is not unconstitutional or hypocritical.

As for the Patriot Act, quite frankly, my guess is you haven't read it. Since I have read it and since I have come to conclusions about it that you wouldn't want to hear, I'm not going to waste my time explaining why it's constitutionally problematic when you and other cons are just going to dismiss my reasoning as "liberal" because it doesn't agree with your own.

Trust me though, if you really don't like Hillary and really are "afraid" of her socialism, then you DON'T want the Patriot Act in effect while she is president.

Answer 5

Uh, advocating the Constitution be amended to make this closer to a democracy is not in itself an unconstitutional act.

Pretending the Constitution is a meaningless piece of paper that can be ignored is.

We're not saying ignore the Constitution, but times have changed, and we no longer have to elect people to elect the President; we can do it directly ourselves, what with communication and all having improved just a bit since the 18th century.

But to pretend that citizens have no rights, and the president should be given power to do whatever he wants, just because he wants to, violates the deepest principles this country was founded on.

You think WE'RE hypocritical?

I don't pose in front of soldiers and say I love this country, while doing everything I can to destroy it.

The Lunatic in Chief is the hypocrit here.

Answer 6

Clinton won in 92 with 42 percent of the popular vote. and Ross Perot divided the republicans.

If there was a straight election you would only need California and New York. That is why they want to get rid or the electoral college.

Answer 7

Wow. Only a conservative could string words together in such an incoherent manner.

Wanting to amend the Constitution to get rid of the electoral college has nothing to do with Bush's inability to act within the bounds of the Constitution.

Answer 8

Its not so Al Gore can be president. That wouldn't happen anyway. The electoral college is an outdated institution. Written into the Constitution, during the days before mass media and mandatory educational requirements. Many of the early settlers were uneducated so those that were, set up a voting system to prevent a corrupt politician from being able to weasle his way into office. It didn't work!

Answer 9

'Hypocritical' is really being over used these days. Heck, for decades now. Sure, if you examine someone's political statements carefully enough, I'm sure you can find some inconsistencies. But do we have to leap up and shout "Hypocrisy!" like it's some sort of unforgiveable sin?

Answer 10

In my view, it's the right wing that is hypocritical about the Constitution. They claim to honor and respect it and the Founding Fathers, yet they have set about destroying all the protections and checks and balances that our brilliant Founding Fathers designed.