Global Warming, isn't it a farce?

Question

The latest rage for Dems is the threat of global warming. Could it be that they needed an issue to rally behind because they lack real leadership and a true vision?
Let’s get real – ALL PLANETS IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM ARE HEATING UP! Our Ice Caps are melting, but the earth is in a cycle. It has been proven through science that we go through warm spells and cold spells (ICE AGE?). Why do we believe everything the media produces, then they’re just trying to make a headline to get your money! Don’t believe everything you hear!

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Answer 1

Bobby, you are right. It is PROPAGANDA to once again exert mind-control over the masses. There are several devices to control the climate, weather and earthquakes (thanks to Nikola Tesla), so if there were ever to be an actual problem, we would have no problem overcoming it.

Tesla patented an "apparatus to produce ozone" over 100 years ago and another apparatus to convert nitrogen in the atmosphere into oxygen. He also wanted to give the world "free energy," but JP Morgan didn't let this happen. If we run out of oil or have some energy crisis, "free energy" technology (producing more energy than an apparatus/medium expends) can finally be implemented, and Tesla can finally be immortalized as the finest thinker in history.

Anybody who says global warming is an issue is LYING to you or is under mind-control. Anybody who says we must search for alternative energy sources is LYING to you. Solutions to these things have been suppressed for the past century.

Pierre here (below) is trying to convince you otherwise and states Tesla's patents and experiments did not occur (I can't believe he even mentions Al Gore!!). He cites outdated physics principles from over 150 years ago..the physics of Faraday, Helmholtz, Maxwell and Hertz with the so called "laws" of thermodynamics. Although mainstream physics classes and textbooks subscribe to the laws of thermodynamics, the real universe does not. Textbooks also teach Columbus "discovered" America.

Telsa, with his Magnifying Transmitter, demonstrated that he was able to produce inexhaustible "free energy" at speeds of 1.5 times the speed of light at a frequency of 12MHz. Haarp in Alaska is based on Telsa's patents and channels wireless energy to Japan.

Tesla also invented the Radio and wireless communication. Pierre just thinks this was an ordinary invention that didn't revolutionize anything. Telsa invented A/C (alternating current), which all power grids in the world are based on to provide electricity for modern living, but that wasn't revolutionary either. The X-ray...not revolutionary? The list goes on and on.

Answer 2

So you mean it's ok if we just ignore every warning and statement about global warming and just go on with our lives with CO2 emissions from our cars and a/c's and factories until some country is reported to have sunk underwater? Or perhaps we should start acting if the rising water submerged a US city (since frankly speaking everyone takes notice if something hit the US hard, but could almost care less if it were elsewhere)?

In reality, this problem is here whether we like it or not. Gone were the old days when you can just simply go to a park and feel a good and relaxing temperature. We didn't need to worry about Global Warming then because we weren't so technologically advanced. Now, even if you go to a park or even a resort, you still get the heat.

Unfortunately, much as we hear the pleas to act to reduce the effects of Global Warming, only a few get to respond. Everyone else just ignores it...

Answer 3

Nearly thirty years ago, we were concerned greatly about something called global cooling. Never happened. In fact, the temperature of our Earth is always in flux. It goes up, it goes down. That's part of life here on Earth. Most people seem to think that our temperature is supposed to remain stable, or that our environment isn't supposed to be changing (constantly). They're wrong of course.

Our environment is always changing. We had an ice age, then the ice age went away. We've had nasty brutal winters, and periods where we didn't get snow all winter long. During the time of the dinosaurs, the global average temperature was suspected of being much higher than our current global average, and one theory is that a meteor/comet impact caused cooling, killing the dinosaurs and changing the environment. Other theories suggest that the environment changed naturally via volcanic ash, and other factors such as the sun's solar flare activity, and that the impact of the meteor had only an after-effect.

From my perspective, I'd be much more worried about a reduction in carbon dioxide than an increase. Plants need a growing season (summer) and a food source (CO2), in addition to water, sunlight and nutrients.

Assuming for the moment that we humans are actually changing the environment, and that the current trend of warming that we're detecting at ground level is somehow our fault, and assuming that we can find a way to reverse that trend and cause enough reduction in carbon dioxide to reduce the warming trend at ground level, what then?

We shorten the growing season, rather than lengthen it, and we reduce the food source of CO2, which plants use to grow and produce oxygen via photosynthesis.

Less growing season + cooler temperatures = Less food produced.

It also means less oxygen. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm FAR more concerned about a massive loss of CO2 than a moderate or even giant increase in it.

Increasing the temperature by a few degrees over a matter of centuries is hardly alarming, and in fact fits perfectly with our knowledge of a changing environment. It also helps us out, making livable and usable areas out of areas currently unlivable and unusable due to currently shorter growing seasons.

To quote a character Dennis Farina once played on TV:
"Aren't you worried about global warming?"
"Of course I am. That's why this baby has air conditioning."

Answer 4

No, it's not a farce, it's a looming problem that has been unfortunately politicized. On the one hand, you have environmental activists claiming that if we don't stop using fossil fuel right now, New York will be under water in 50 years. On the other hand, you have neocons who say it's all a natural process and we should just relax and enjoy it, and please don't bother the oil companies. "Don't believe everything you hear" is good advice, but it cuts both ways.

The truth lies somewhere in between. I've seen a number of sources citing a Duke University report from a couple of years back as evidence that solar activity, not carbon emissions, is the cause of global warming. But what the study said is that 10 to 30 percent of recent warming may have been due to increased solar activity. That still leaves 70 to 90 percent from other causes.

There seems to be a fair consensus among climatologists that increasing CO2 concentration is a factor in global warming, and that human activity has a significant impact on CO2 levels. It's reasonable conclusion then that human activity *contributes* to global warming. In which case I think it is prudent to do what we can to reduce that contribution. Keeping in mind that our food supply is dependent on climate conditions, and that rapid climate change could have disastrous effects on agriculture and fisheries, we should be able to justify a moderate level of expenditure to reduce our carbon emissions in the hopes of slowing the process down.

Answer 5

The science of global warming is not in doubt. But when the oil companies spread some money around for stories from unspecialized journalists, who know nothing about science but only enough to slap a newspaper together or produce a TV show, what do you expect?

Al Gore in AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH showed 650,000 years of Antarctic ice cores with carbon dioxide measurements on trapped bubbles of gas. Though there was a cyclical pattern, human activity has now raised carbon dioxide to 3 times the highest crest of that pattern...


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Expose AIPAC, what have YOU been smoking? You make all sorts of wild claims and then allege a conspiracy. Invoking a conspiracy that suppresses amazing new inventions does not make your life easier, it only gives you TWO wild things to prove instead of one.

--First of all, there is no such thing as "free energy". It refers to the fact that quantum physics things like electron motion or vibrations in molecules have a ground state that is never zero. There is always a finite "zero point energy" that remains. But this is not an energy level that you can extract, it's just a property of atoms.

--There is no such thing as a machine that produces more power than it consumes. It is not often that science can definitely disprove something for all time, but thermodynamics does disprove this, for all time. It does not depend on developing some new trick or technique that we haven't thought of yet. Any such machine developed will still be connected to our real world, the "system", and will still have to follow all the thermodynamic rules. Do not believe in charlatans and fakes who are trying to raise money for "perpetual-motion machines" as a source of "free energy". Energy is NOT free. They will claim a great conspiracy is keeping their invention a secret, but it's THEIR invention! Why don't they hold a press conference, or better yet, PROVE their nonsense in a peer-reviewed scientific journal so there is no cheating? Instead they collect money from "investors" and abscond with the money.



--Nikola Tesla made some very useful devices relating to electricity, but it is myth that he made "revolutionary" devices. A machine for making ozone has to use electricity and the electric bill to refill a whole planet's atmosphere of missing ozone would be tremendous indeed. So stop mythologizing Tesla.

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Answer 6

Global warming is real. (look at temps in the Cretaceous, Cambrian, etc...)

Global cooling is real. (ice ages)

We will face many real problems if the warming continues (probably) as a huge human population. (with agriculture, clean water, land to live on, tropical diseases)

It is not man-made. It is a natural cycle. We CAN'T stop it. No matter how hard we try. The Earth is mightier than we could ever be.

We should clean up CO2 for our own good, though. We do have to breathe this air.

Lets stop arguing about what's causing it and work on solutions for the problems we are going to inevitably face.

Answer 7

1) Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it can't happen.

2) No, the planets are NOT all heating up. We've been checking for dozens of years.

3) Yes, the Earth does go through cycles. And the only thing it's going to hurt this time is us. We caused this - but even if we didn't, we need to stop it, because we WILL die either way.

4) Same to you.

Answer 8

Yes.

We know for a fact that Mars has been warming up at the same time Earth has been warming up. Scientists who study the fluctuations in solar activity over time are worried we might be heading into a long cooling cycle.

And geologists have told us for a long time that we are living in an interglacial era. The glaciers could return if the Sun is slightly cooling down.

Answer 9

it rather is not basically the climate. The northpole: is melting greater effective than ever earlier and there is far less ice than ever earlier. Ocean: The Temperature is increasing, the water gets warmer.... wherefore particular tropical fish is bobbing up to the north. Which not at all befell earlier. bugs: Many tropical insect are shifting and are settling greater up north. Hurricanes: they are getting greater sever, this has to do with the bigger temperature modifications in air and ocean. And worldwide warming generates for particular components interior the beginning up a harder wintry climate. the subject is that the character does no longer get sufficient time to recuperate anymore.

Answer 10

While it may or may not be true that the Earth is naturally heating up, we are only making it happen faster.