Do you wish the South had won the Civil War?

Question

Now before you people explode on me I want you to actually imagine if this were reality. I personally believe that both sides in the long run would be happier if the South had won. Each side today is so politically sectionalized that it would make life so much easier for both sides if we were separate countries. Now I’m not saying I don’t love my country I do, but I don’t love all of my country. I live in Texas and we are being overrun with Mexicans and if we could make laws on our own I can promise you they would be back in Mexico right now. Today it would be the South in Iraq and we wouldn’t have a problem with it, now I’m not saying that we don’t have Democrats here but not enough of them to count for shi+. The North could do what ever they wanted also, they could whine like France up there for all I care. It is my opinion that by this time each side would have gotten used to life without the other. And we couldn’t imagine life being the same country.

Now this is not the first time I have asked this so I would like to make something clear that I didn't have room for above. The Civil War was not about Slavery now I'm not saying it wasn't an issue of it's day it was but it was not the cause of the Civil War. And by now I can promise you their would be no slaves. Slavery was on its way out any way with the industrial revloution. Not long after the Civil War machines were taking the place of the slaves.

Answer 1

I have thought about that scenario many times, it would be a better place (U.S.A.) if the south had won. The confederate states of america is the only country the U.S. ever invaded, and actually occupied. Many of the problems that exist with government today would have never come to pass, had the south won. If you go by dead body count, the south did win.

Answer 2

Well if the south would've won they most likely would've annexed the North making the Confederate States of America bigger and the south more powerful. There's no way they would've won since they didn't have the means, industry wise, to support the war effort. Nowadays the south is a huge economic benefactor to this country and houses a lot of industrial jobs and middle class families. As far as them wanting a "White Nationalist" government today...I don't know if you've been to the south recently but a large portion of America's African American population live down south so I would have a hard time validating/believing any claims that they want a supremacist government in that region...

Answer 3

I don't think either country would have made it if the South had one the War. The Confederacy would have just kept subdividing like a chain reaction each time two States couldn't agree. Then once they were divided they would have to fight to Survive wars with Mexico, European recolonization, etc. You know, the works. The North might have survived but it would never have been able to grow as strong without the Agricultural base in the South. No Federalism is the best system for us, we just need to keep going back to it.

Answer 4

The South had no industry, infrastructure and virtually no marketable currency. They had extremely limited inter-state communications and little experience running a country with such far flung borders.

Had they won, the South would have almost certainly fractured into many smaller countries with even more limited resources. It would have been interesting to see how the North would have reacted to the attempt by England or Spain to take over states like South Carolina or Louisiana, who both had fairly well developed ports and access to needed products and markets.

No our problems are far more national and ideological than just the North/South fight over the railroad.

Answer 5

My ancestors were slaves. They were freed from slavery by Union troops under the terms of Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation.

It’s all very well and good to talk about slavery ending eventually but the white southerners wanted to expand slavery into the territories. They also talked about annexing more land for slavery in Central America and Cuba. They made monumental efforts to defend their "peculiar institution" from the perceived onslaught against it by the "Black Republicans."

The Civil War was won by the side that fought for the preservation of this nation and that freed the slaves. It was the correct outcome.

Answer 6

Not so much.

The rights of the states do not matter as much as the rights of human beings. If the South had won, African Americans would have no rights.

You're right on the issue of immigration, there is nothing states can do. The federal government has to figure than one out, but that is why you and the rest of Texas has representation in the House and Senate.

But, look at the issue of gay marriage. It has been the right of states to either deny (unconstitutionally) or approve the right of same sex couples to be married. So, I would hardly say states have lost their rights.

I'm glad the North won, and even happier to live in the North.

Answer 7

Had the united states of America split into two countries, it would have been the end of both of them. Lincoln was absolutely right in fighting the war against secession. Had the country been divided, and the south either won or was allow to secede people there would still be speaking french. France was sitting down in Mexico waiting for America to splinter, and British forces were camped out in Canada waiting for the same thing. Imagine that.

Answer 8

The Civil War was about slavery--read the Declarations of Causes for Secession written by the seceding states. The Civil War turned out just fine. If, however, the southern states want to secede now that would be okay. The liberal Blue States are tired of supporting them through the federal tax system.

Answer 9

The South would've had a retarded economy with its plantation system and the Confederacy would join the Nazis in their quest for land acquisition and Aryan supremacy in the 30s

The Reconstruction period in the South was forced down the Southerner's throats and while it has a disastrous start, Southerners under Johnson tried to pass Black Codes which stringently limiting blacks' rights and eventually circumvented many of the legislation passed by the Northern Republicans in Congress. If the Confederacy had won the Civil War, they should still continue with their slave trade - not to mention many whites would hold a perverse comfort from the belief of being superior to their black counterparts. Whether or not you view the Civil War as one with economics at stake whereby the North prospered at the expense of the South's retarded growth, its clearly obvious that states' rights were being used just to support the 'peculiar institution' which acted as the South's viable economic health.

The South was not even on a verge of its own industrialization since there were no major factories being developed except the border states. As one historian pointed out the South had frozen its assets in slavery and could not allocate that wealth elsewhere since the slavetrader was caught in spiral of investments.

On the question of how the Confederacy would operate on their own constitutional framework, I don't think that the Southern states would be able to manage certain issues without having a war against each other or claiming higher court over the other - it would all culminate to some disastrous predicament.

Answer 10

Yes, and I agree with everything you said.

It's funny, the federal government dictates how we can handle the illegals, but yet none of them live near the areas affected. All they see is workers coming up north to pick their corn in September, and they think that's good for the economy. But, they don't see how there's 3 illegals for every American born citizen across 3 or 4 south and south western states. Nor do they see the slums and crime that is developing because of it. Unless you live in or travel to the south, you'll never know the true extent of the problem.

We need to give rights back to the states affected and stop being so damned politically correct.