How can the arguement that all life is sacred...?

Question

be used to validate being against abortion while the same person is in support of the war?

stem cell research applies also.

the greater good argument is not the question here and is off topic

just war argument is not the question. it is off topic because this has to do directly with the presidents logic regarding a speech he made.

the point is you cant say all life is sacred except because then your faced with a slippery slope ethic which will not hold ground when scutinized.

good point, so saying all life is sacred and having an exception is bad, but if you can identify what life you believe to be sacred (I.E. innocent children vs soldiers at war) than the argument will be valid if not sound.

apples are red oranges are orange

abortion and war do both cause death, death of children and innocence. How can anyone use such cold tactics and still be able sleep at night?

Answer 1

The arguments used by conservatives to justify their positions are talking points and not actual beliefs. They can be dismissed any time they are inconvenient.

For instance, if you believe that abortion is wrong because of the rights of the fetus, why would you make an exception for a woman who has been raped? This exception makes sense only if banning abortion is about regulating women's conduct, not protecting fetuses. But since admitting that your objective is to control people's private conduct isn't a big vote winner, they use the fetal life argument instead.

Answer 2

Most people in an attempt to validate this claim could state that the loss of one life to prevent the future loss of many untold numbers more would willingly concede that one life---as long as it wasn't their own.

Fortunately, I don't believe that all life is sacred. I have seen some truly ugly things that one person can do to another and it astounds me. I think the death penalty should have a very short shelf life, an express lane if you will.

But I digress from your actual question. In the case of anti-abortion and pro-war, I think it comes down to the fact that a fetus doesn't have a choice or a voice.
As far as supporting the war that would depend on the why of it.
Hitler needed to be removed. Thousands of people were slaughtered during his reign of terror.
Bin Laden same thing, different name.
You are attempting to compare apples and oranges by making the statement that an abortion and war are the same as the end is still a death. In essence that statement would be true, however, when closey compared, they aren't the same.
The only common factor in both, is death. A fetus has the potential to become something, while war means that something is being done to remove a person/persons from society to prevent further harm to untold others.
So how does one justify supporting the war and being anti abortion, very easily. One has potential while the other has already exceeded the limits to which rational humans can withstand and must be removed.

Answer 3

Agreed. That isn't the argument many put forward, and is more appropriate to a Hindu system of belief than a Christian one.

All life is not sacred. It is possible to give up your right to life by taking the life of another in an unlawful, immoral, unethical way (any of those three in question bring the whole event into question); ex.: murder. Non-example: a soldier killing an enemy combatant, on either side of the war, if they are both wearing uniforms.

A fetus cannot give up its right to life. Someone is making that decision based on their desires, not the fetus'.

I am pro-choice, but this argument is silly. This is just another form of it.

Both sides act like they can't comprehend the argument or values of the other side. It's quite a commentary on their level of intelligence.

You have different values. Both sides should take a little responsibility and stop evading that.

Answer 4

The government has no reason to be funding stem cell research. There is no ban on this type of research and private businesses and individuals can fund it.

Many Americans think this is morally repugnant. The government has no right to fund such a thing. There are already way too many things the government does that it shouldn't and we don't need yet another one.

Life is precious and sacred but this does not mean that there is never justification for killing. Capital punishment, war and self defense are three very common things that we undertake when needed.

Your simple attempt at comparing a war and abortion is just that, simple, and it has no context. In an abortion the child has no one to defend it except for us living adults with some common sense. This life is precious and should be protected.

Our current war on terror is only being waged because there are insane, fanatic Muslims that want to destroy everyone and everything that they do not believe in. They murdered over 3,000 Americans and had killed many Americans in the decades before leading up to this war. This is not a war that we asked for or started to simply kill people.

Please get a perspective on life and educate yourself about what is happening.

Answer 5

There's a world of difference between abortion and war.

That comparison is such a farce.

Abortion is the murder of an unborn human. War is the act of fighting and making unfortunate, but necessary, sacrifices to help a country remain. There is no real argument regarding this.

Answer 6

Well most people who don't believe in abortion and believe in war don't believe all life is sacred.

I only believe that innocent life is sacred. By the laws of war I am legally allowed to shoot an enemy soldier, just like he is allowed to shoot me. We are not innocent and our lives are not sacred.

A pre-born human on the other hand is about the most innocent person I can think of.

Answer 7

Human soul is sacred indeed, because God breathed His soul in the first man's body.Further, God has declared that the soul is sacred and hence, no one should kill himself or kill other/s. Scanning the foetus in its mother's womb and then deciding to kill if it happens to be a female child, is more sinful than female infanticide. God is the cherisher of every creation of His. He provides every one's food.The toad inside a big boulder gets water and the worm inside the mango gets its food,He, in His infinite mercy, has made arrangement for every thing till the doomsday. Why then, men
created in HIs image behave so?

Answer 8

War is sometimes used to prevent more loss of life and there's meaning and honor to a soldier's death, whereas abortion does nothing but abolish an innocent soul for selfish reasons.

Answer 9

As a matter of fact the defence of the greater good is the best reason to fight a war. What I do know is that a baby does not have the power to harm myself or my Country. Muslim terrorists and people like Saddam are a different story.

Answer 10

Doesn't it work both ways? How can you say war is wrong and killing the unborn is OK?

There are consistent prolifers who oppose all killing, including war, abortion, and capital punishment. Anyone interested can learn more at http://www.consistent-life.org .

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