The Patriot Act has all but eliminated the need for judges to sign warrents - The police now decide what where when and who -
There are laws now (Patriot Act) that allow for arrest without charge and without trial -
Torture has been defended by the President and the CIA is now retroactively absolved from criminal charges in reguard to what used to be crimes against humanity
The Presdential directive twined with the Homeland security directive goives the President the power to suspend elections and run all 3 branch's of government throught the secratary of the Homeland security
A camp has been set up off shore because the government wishes to avoid existing laws in the the US - They have and are consistantly working twords abolishing those laws
Free Speech zones have been set up Where one can no longer be seen protesting the President or seaking of certain things within so many yards -
No free speech here - but say what you like over there - Is that ok with you?
2007-06-20 15:42:52 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Law & Ethics
To me this is a move tword a facist state .
Corperate ownership of government Control of the peole Control of the media - Increased powers with no right to trial or representation
The elimination of scrutiny - The removal of a judge from watching directing and instructing the police agencies -
The dismantleing of laws that pertain to human rights - The clandestine camps and the absolution of cromes commited by government agents -
How can anyone not say that this is a a loss of freedoms ?
2007-06-20 15:45:47 · update #1
Robert S
In world war one and two the British Empire (and Canada was a proud Emipire nation) we managed to go to war without all this facist freedom taking stuff - And we went in 1914 WW 1 and 1939 WW 2
When was it you went again ?
2007-06-20 15:59:55 · update #2
Of course, you are absolutely correct! *sm*
2007-06-20 16:07:18 · answer #1 · answered by LadyZania 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I largely agree with you in principle when you state "if you give up any of your rights and freedoms, you have already lost", but it's a little more complex than that imo. In the instance that the country were legitimately threatened by another nation-state, it's unfortunate but necessary that the President be vested with the power of declaring the suspension of some civil liberties if absolutely necessary, such as if the President had to declare emergency martial law. The problem in this instance is that we're not fighting a defined enemy. According to Bush, we're at war with "terror", and terror is an intangible "ism". It's a political tool, not a definable enemy. There will NEVER be any clear victory or defeat, and hence the suspension of any civil liberties could conceivably last indefinitely. Imo, we should NEVER be willing to suspend ANY civil liberty when there is no clearly defined enemy or objective we're fighting, because that simply gives the government complete and sole power to determine when the conflict is over and liberties may be reinstated. And it's an axiom that once you cede power to a power-seeking entity, that entity will almost never return the power voluntarily.
2016-05-21 05:04:20 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
We need serious oversight as long as this patriot act is in force. I also believe there needs to be some changes to this. This bothers me as much, if not more, than the terrorists. I also think the media has been effected by all of this. Too much unnecessary government secrecy which also causes a lack of trust.
2007-06-20 16:10:48 · answer #3 · answered by BekindtoAnimals22 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes the Patriot Act is flawed, but the intentions were good.
You are ranting a bit incoherently. Take a deep breath and count the weeks until January 2009 when Bush is out on his ear. Then pray for sanity to return.
2007-06-20 15:49:57 · answer #4 · answered by Kevin k 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Perhaps you don't realize that democracies have to do this in war-time.
Maybe you are too young to remember WWII.
If you don't realize we're at war, take a look at this:
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/know-about-jihad/
2007-06-20 15:55:20 · answer #5 · answered by Robert S 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
As Long As We R Killin The Sorry Ragheads B@stards .I Can Defend My Own Freedom..Thnx "DAWG"
2007-06-20 15:55:06 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 3⤋
the only freedom we have as americans is the freedom to see our tax money waisted and to die without commiting suicide lol
2007-06-20 15:48:55 · answer #7 · answered by gamafoo 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
yea we're losing some of our freedom and when it gets bad enough and we're all pissed, we will one day all get together over throw the government ourselves lol
2007-06-20 15:53:42 · answer #8 · answered by S.C 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
freedom's just another word like the song goes too.
2007-06-20 15:50:57 · answer #9 · answered by cadaholic 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No I'm worried about liberals taking away my rights for the " GREATER GOOD!"
2007-06-20 15:55:00 · answer #10 · answered by johnywinslow 3 · 0⤊ 4⤋