Can Man Overcome IN A Socialist Government?

Question

How can you place someone with dreams and aspirations under a socialist government? I tell you that it will never work.

God has placed it inside of every being the potential to break barriers, smash glass ceilings and accomplish great things when man say it is impossible. You will always find the one person or persons that will stand out in a crowd, spread his wings and soar high above his peers.
It is not because the his peers were wronged but because he applied himself more aggressively when everyone else stopped to rest.

Should we penalize the over acheiver? Take away his accomplishments and give it to those that feel they've been cheated by life.
Of course not. But that what it looks like the liberals of this country now wants.

Big government = socialism

Socialism = trying to put a stop on what man can accomplish

Stopping man from acheiving = the downfall of a great nation

Please share.

Yes, and they look like a very oppressed people.

Jesus, the Christ was NOT a socialist. Jesus obeyed the law of the land but He in no way subscribed to any government movement.
Jesus showed the people that they could accomplished all that they were called to do even under an oppressive government when they learned to walk in the spirit in Him.
I hate when liberals lie on Jesus.

Funny I don't hear of millions running to sneak over the borders to become citizens of these wonderful socialist countries.

Answer 1

I agree with you. And this is precisely why so many country's in Europe are electing leaders that are leaning towards the right. Albeit, right over there is certainly not comparable to right over here, but for them, it's a start. France and many of the other country's over there are being drained dry as a result of socialism. They realize it and hopefully will be able to pull out, but it will take a long time.

Once people have become as dependent on government as their citizens have become, the hole gets deeper and deeper. Higher taxes, less incentive for success, the list goes on. That's what concerns me about putting anyone into office who even leans in that direction.

Any time someone mentions 'spreading the wealth', I get my hackles up. To me, that means robbing someone to give to someone else. Something that robs not only finances, but incentive as well.

I spent 16 years of my life in Europe and know exactly what socialism is.

Answer 2

There are a lot of people who base "their" opinions of socialism on the propaganda they've been fed, because the only way we've had in this country have been disguised as things people are used to having, like Social Security, Medicare, postal service, police, firefighters, road maintenance, snow removal, etc., etc. On the other hand, socialism and crapitalism need each other, and the only way to keep crapitalism from abusing everyone and everything is government regulation which, in the case of the U.S., where there has been far too little ever since Reagan, means more government. Maybe your situation is different, but that's how ours is, and even without outright socialism, I don't see it working any other way.

Answer 3

Before you whip out your invisible sky wizard defense, Jesus was a socialist.

Your definition of socialism is not socialism. From wikipedia:

Socialism refers to a broad array of doctrines or political movements that envisage a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community. This control may be either direct—exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils—or indirect—exercised on behalf of the people by the state. As an economic system, socialism is often characterized by state or worker ownership of the means of production.

This doesn't mean socialism restricts those that excel. For example, places like Canada and Europe are socialist democracies. They still have a free market. They still have individuals who excel. They still have millionaires and billionaires. In this case, socialism provides for the community. Free schools. Free college. Free healthcare. The country pools together resources to provide services for the common good.

Big government does not equal socialism. We have one of the biggest governments in the world, and we could hardly be called socialist (military spending makes up well over 60%).

The only things that stop someone from achieving their goals is themslves. Even people in dictatorships can excel. What is important is the goals and how they are achieved.

Blaming you're lack of accomplishment on a particular governmental philosphy is self-defeating, as well as ludicrous. In any government you can rise through the ranks by playing the system. People do it here. People do it in Europe. People do it in China.

Socialism does not bring down great nations. People bring down great nations. See the Roman Empire for an example.

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Answer 4

Government in democracies are responsible for socialism. How the weak, infirm, desperate, young , animals, women, unemployed, refugeed, etc. people of a country of the world or of citizenship are treated is a reflection of government. Government is the people. No government, no socialism, no civilization.

Socialism isn't a bad thing, neither is capitalism, they support each other through taxation and welfare.

Communism and dictatorships are not supportive of the things we hold dear in socialism and capitalism. Therefore freedom of all suffers including the able. Disabled or infirm people suffer even worse than the animals suffer.

Don't knock socialism, it's not communism, but a way th share the sucess of the vital with the disparities of the less fortunate.

Answer 5

In a socialist system the individual is unimportant compared to society as a whole. That's why it's so easy for socialist governments to eliminate people (kick in their doors at night and drag them away never to be seen again) for the good of the whole.

Answer 6

Neither civilization or democracy would exist without some form of socialism (individuals working together for a common cause). The problem is that you have been conditioned to believe that socialism is evil when in fact without the social reforms that have taken place in America through the years America would be a less civilized society......

Answer 7

Yes. Canada and the majority of Europe would fit your definition of Socialism.

Answer 8

er... I can't believe you made a whole question about socialism and seem quite unaware of what it is fully...

ever heard of a socialist democracy... like in Europe...

still a lot of achievements being made there...

But to your "definition" of socialism... what do you do with the 70-80 percent of the nation that aren't "overachivers" by definition then? let them die? let them be the slaves of the "achivers"?

you guys always seem to be clueless about what to do with the MAJORITY of the population....

Answer 9

Of course it doesn't work..but there always is a brain dead person comes along and does it again and millions suffer because of it....the latest one is Chavez in Venezuela

Answer 10

You know, Gorbachev did.