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My child is failing in school but they say she doesn't qualifiy for any special help...Also they say she could be ADHD without hyperactivity...

2007-06-19 12:01:28 · 13 answers · asked by dawna7 1 in Education & Reference Special Education

Well she has been tested for a learning disability and shows not to have one...I took her report cards and the testing they did at school where the doctor did say she had ADHD without hyperactivity but like you said there is no real test for that so I would like to try everything else before meds. because I feel they are dangerous.

2007-06-19 12:43:09 · update #1

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90 to 109 is considered to be average according to the WISC/WAIS scoring manual.

The I.Q. score is just half of the story. Does she have a discrepancy between her ability score (I.Q.) and achievement scores? Children with LD have average I.Q.s, but have low achievement scores, therefore qualifying for an IEP.

I would be happy to look at her scores if you like.

If you can get a doctor to investigate whether she has ADHD Inattentiveness Type, and she does - then get the school to write a Section 504 Plan for her and make sure they follow it.

2007-06-19 16:51:41 · answer #1 · answered by countbehavior 5 · 0 0

What does IQ have to do with it?? My daughter has an IQof 127 and she has several learning disablilties. You need to have her tested by a nureo-psychologist a psychologist who's trained to test for learning disablities. The fact that your daughter has a normal IQ and is still failing indicates that something is wrong. This is why I tell everyone to have an independent test done. The school system does not want to pay for the extra services so it's hard to get them to admit that there is an issue. It took me almost four years to convince the Department of Education in NYC that my daughter had an learning disabllity. Even though It runs in my family. Don't let the school make these desicions for you, get her tested by a specialiest that's on your side and see what comes of that. Than request an IEP confrenece and take the findings from your psychologist with you. Also get letters from all of the medical professionals that deal with her to say that she needs special help. What you will have to decide is if what the school system is going to offer you what your daughter will need to learn. If you don't think that what they are offerening is what your daughter needs than you have the right to request a seat in a school that you think will be able to teach her. If you get an IEP for your daughter remember that there should be an conference every year to go over the IEP and to make any changes you or the school and teacher feel are needed. Also don't sign the first one until you're sure that it has all of the modifications that you want for your daughter it can't be put into affect until you sign and send a signed copy to the Dept. of Ed. Don't forget that every three years she will be reevaluated to see if she still needs that services. It's called a tri-anunal evaluation. If at some point you think that your daughter no longer needs the services you can have her put back into general education. It's not true that once in special education that the're stuck there forever. You have the choice and you can call for an IEP conference any time you want. If you need any more help email me. this is what I do I help parents get services dor their children with LD's,
Hope that things are go well from here on in.

2007-06-20 01:14:22 · answer #2 · answered by Kathryn R 7 · 0 0

Hi! I am sorry to hear that your child is having difficulty in school. I am a speech pathologist and work with educators to help make modifications for students to be successful.
90-110 on most standardized tests such as an IQ test is considered within the average range. Some IQ tests have an even broader average range from 85-115 based upon the test. Though IQ testing can vary, after age 7, results are usually fairly consistent.
To qualify for services, states must follow state law criterion. For example, a child with a learning disability in our state must have a 20 point discrepency or split between achievement and IQ testing. Sometimes, we will have a child that may "fall through the cracks" by having a low average IQ (usually in the 80s) and achievemnt scores that are in the low 70s. While the achievement scores are considered significantly below average, they are still considered commensurate or close enough to the child's ability or IQ result and the child isnt eligible for services.
In our state, Children can qualify with ADD and ADHD to receive services through a physician's verification. Our school psychologist helps with the assessment. If the child verifies for that assistence, then she can receive services in any area perceived as a need as a related service. This team can also help assess if medication would be helpful. You are right to try other strategies first and be cautious of the side-effects, but also leave an open mind that for many children medication has opened a window of successful learning.
If the child is still not qualifying for services, all school districts should have a process in place of a team of teachers who problem solve and implement other strategies such as 1:1 work time, extra help, preferential seating, ect to help your child be successful in school. be sure to ask about this, your child should have been a part of this prior to and after the testing.
I would suggest calling the school pyschologist to meet again and have her explain further the results of the IQ testing since you still have questions and explore next step options. Most educators have the same best interests of your child in mind, but if you are having difficulty with the staff, touch base with your principal and consider having an additional outside eval completed (the school district must pay). Good luck, keep advocating!!
(a side note... labelling a child is only important for obtaining another level of service- it doesnt set limitations)

2007-06-19 15:55:28 · answer #3 · answered by scrmomkt 2 · 0 0

Yes 93 is an "average" IQ fscore or any person, at any age.

If you child is failing and he has the disability of ADHD what reason is the school giving you for refusing services?

Even if he is ADHD w/out the hyperactivity, an inattentive ADHD person can still have problems with staying focused, being organized and processing information.

Look up ADHD inattentive type and if the characteristic are those that are causing your child to fail, send a letter to the school documenting your concerns.
Have you asked the school for a comprehensive evaluation?

2007-06-19 13:27:43 · answer #4 · answered by Advocate4kids 3 · 0 1

The average range is 90 to 110. However, I would note that some IQ tests are subjective. I would be sure to check out the test that was used to make sure it was objective.

Edited to add: The IDEA 2004, the law that provides IEP for special education students now states that she can be having "functional" difficulties" and be eligible for an IEP. In other words, if she is doing okay academically, but she is having problems due to behaviors, disorganization, etc, she may be eligible for an IEP.

You do not have to accept the findings of the school district as final. You can request an Independant Educational Evaluation (IEE) at public expense. This is done upon request more than 99% of the time.

2007-06-19 13:22:17 · answer #5 · answered by starrrrgazer 5 · 0 0

It's on the low end of normal, but if she is really ADD the test might not be reliable. The other problem is that school is just a lot harder than it used to be, and maybe an average IQ isn't enough. In any case, she is probably entitled to services if the ADD is impacting things like behavior. Check and see if there is an agency in your area that can help you. It's usually called an advocacy group or something lie Law Services. Also, when you get the written results of the CSE meeting they have to tell you how to appeal.

2007-06-19 15:27:00 · answer #6 · answered by EC Expert 6 · 0 0

IQ of 90-110 is considered average for anyone. If ADD, then she would qualify for special help via 504 plan for accomodations or through an eligilbility category called "Other Health Impaired" if assistance from ESE teacher is needed. ADD is considered a medical disability that hinders a "life function" (learning). She does ot need to be on medication to receive assistance in school. Each state has different rules-check with the Director of ESE in you district.

2007-06-19 17:12:06 · answer #7 · answered by lwnshn 1 · 0 0

easily! The final time I took a try my IQ became a hundred twenty five and that i wager that is even greater now because of the fact I relish workout habitual my concepts. the single element you may could be afflicted approximately is that many human beings seem to worry people who think of in a distinctive way than the norm. Many scientist like Nicola Tesla and others could be misrepresented as crackpots because of the fact many human beings did not comprehend what they have been doing on the time. Einstein had an IQ of a hundred and sixty to a hundred and eighty and he in easy terms have been given Cs in math because of the fact human beings did not comprehend his skill on the time. An IQ of 111 is somewhat stable for a 10 3 hundred and sixty 5 days previous!

2016-10-18 01:59:23 · answer #8 · answered by dicken 4 · 0 0

That is not good, in the fourth grade, i was failing, but i had an iq of 110. But, she could not be getting the material. I suggest laying down restrictions, meditation also helps stabilize the mind an stimulate the nerves in your brain, try feeding her less sugar, grinko, which is found in tea, is a good stimulant for the mind as well.

2007-06-19 12:55:36 · answer #9 · answered by Ben B 1 · 1 0

Insist on that help.
93 is a bit below average, but still in the average range. I'm not so sure she can attend college.
Why aren't they testing her if they suspect ADHD? Demand it! Oh, that's right, there is no specific test. Still, there are other tests, like the pegboard test, etc.

Could you get her tested privately? My niece has ADD and my sister got her tested privately and that is how my niece got accommodations.

2007-06-19 12:12:46 · answer #10 · answered by helpfulhannah 4 · 0 1

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