When did Taiwan gain independence from China?

Question

I'm rather confused after reading information from Wikipedia.
The sentence "Taiwan broke off from mainland China in 1949 when the Nationalists under Chiang Kai-shek fled from Mao Zedong's forces and established their government on the island."....did Taiwan gain independence as a country in 1949?

If not, when did it gain independence?

Hope that you folks out there with the knowledge can reply this question. I'm doing a project, and I'm rather rushed.

Thanks!

Answer 1

Broke off is sadly, not the same as gaining independence.
It has never been recognized worldwide as being an independent country or even a country.
Which is all very sad because ever since Taiwan separated from China, Taiwan has prospered but China has not only until recently. So now China is big and powerful and rich and it's using bullying ways to take back Taiwan. I think that Taiwan has a different identity from China and the circumstances surrounding the split was very much different from that of China and Hong Kong. I hope that Taiwan would declare it's independence soon or else, accept the fate of being swallowed by China, eventually.

Answer 2

Taiwan is not independent. Therefore, it is illogical to ask the question "When did Taiwan gain independence from China?"

Specifically, the Oct. 25, 1945 surrender ceremonies for Japanese troops in Taiwan do not mark a "return" of Taiwan to China. This is a point that confuses most observers.

That date is only the beginning of the military occupation of Taiwan. The United States is the "conqueror," and will be the "principal occupying power." The ROC is merely a subordinate occupying power.

In December 1949, the ROC fled to occupied Taiwan to become a government in exile.

In the post-war peace treaty (San Francisco Peace Treaty) of April 28, 1952, Japan renounced sovereignty over Taiwan without designating a "receiving country." Hence, Taiwan remains under the jurisdiction of the principal occupying power -- the United States of America.

Answer 3

Taiwan is the REPUBLIC of China, which existed in actual china from the beginning of the century.

In 1945, Japan surrendered control over Taiwan to the R.O.C. which controlled most of China's ports (nominally) during its civil war between the Communist Party, the Republic forces and the Japanese 'Manchurian' colonies who were basically all roving and pillaging etc across the face of China at the time. The Americans didnt really care about the place too much, they just picked the stronger horse at the time to bet on.

In 1949, the REPUBLIC of China moved to Taiwan after corruption and betrayal amongst its generals taking some cash and influence to join the communist (emperor Mao's) PEOPLE's republic. Chiang Kai Shek didn't choose to admit his total defeat (thereby losing the rest of his followers and influence over them) and chose to maintain the farce that his army would return... bringing their currency and everything else that the country needed with them to Taiwan.

So technically they really only lost 'independence' when Carter switched recognition of China to PRC, and didn't address what was up with Taiwan's status, which is now a legal grey area that people address by adjusting titles to reflect the weirdness. Ie- 'trade offices' rather than diplomatic relations.

Of course this serves everyone elses interests well economically- no international restrictions cover Taiwan realistically, none can be enforced. All rules are mostly followed, but plausible deniability is a powerful thing and nobody wants to give it up. Taiwan's joining the WTO is essentially the tacit agreement by everyone that it is an area that has its own interests separate from the nation of china. But no claims will be made because people like making money.

All it takes is the small cost of 26 million people's 'representation' internationally. But who needs that- the UN has no real abilities to enforce agreements anyways. Taiwan's army and currency do still have that ability to defend its own interests. Thus it for all realistic purposes- is still an independent area of land lacking only the certain title that is inconvenient for others to admit.

Basically the yearly issue is so politicians can spout hot air and build up support from the haters. Its easy votes to secure.Tell em what they want and give em nothing. Standard political moves.

Modern china is closer to the R.O.C.'s traditional business ethos now than Emperor Mao's ethos. More of a fascism thing or monarchic thing. Hard to say from over here. Whatever ism you call it, it is a step up from idiocy.

Answer 4

The pending invasion of Taiwan:

That threat has been going on for over 50 years and is never going to happen. China has laid claim to Taiwan as it was one of China’s provinces prior to Mao taking over. Sure, China and Taiwan dust off their sabers once a year or so, rattle them at each other, then put them away and go back to normal trade, cultural and scientific exchanges and tourism. I suspect all the saber rattling is done to appease the haters. In time, when China’s economy becomes stronger, Taiwan and China will be united for economic reasons and like Hong Kong, it will be under the same concept, one country, two governments. Exactly what China has stated for over a decade.

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There is a lot of misinformation and bad assumptions made of China. From my experiences, what people know about China would fit in a thimble. What they think they know would fit in a barrel.

Peace

Jim

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Answer 5

This is a long story, and a confusing one for many.
Taiwan has NEVER gained any legal status as an independent nation. The United Nations recognizes it as a "province of China." See the article under
'Legal Status of Taiwan':

Answer 6

Hi,
Firstly, If you are doing a project then you chould get the name of the respective territories correct.

The Countries are known as People's Republic of China (PRC) and Republic of China (ROC) The Taiwan Province is a part of ROC. The PRC has never had any jurisdiction over this territory since it was formed in 1949.The Constitutions of both territories lay claim to the other's territory.

The ROC Does not have to declare Independence as it is a Sovereign State although because of both economics and politics most major Nations do not recognise this position.

Answer 7

taiwan is china. the GMT lose the battle and retreat to taiwan to regroup. there were plan to fight back but it never took place. so sad.