Bases loaded. Bottom of the 9th. Visiting team is leading 4-1. 2 out. Batter hits an apparent grand slam homer, but the runner at first misses 2nd base. The second baseman notices, and calls for a new baseball. He touches 2nd, and the umpire signals out. Does the batter lose the home run? Do the runners at 2nd & 3rd score? Does the home team lose?
2007-06-18 12:31:29 · 10 answers · asked by ? 3 in Sports ➔ Baseball
No runs score because the out at second was a force out, and most of the answers above me are jokes.
Frizzer, please stop embarrassing yourself. Your ruling is totally wrong.
KDII's answer is full of nonsense.
Jeremy, the batter-runner did not pass the runner from first.
2007-06-18 16:22:57 · answer #1 · answered by Ryan R 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
reminds me of merkle who played a LONG time ago.
The Cubs and NY Giants were tied in a tight pennant race, with the score tied 1-1 in the bottom of the 9th. There were runners on first and third, with Merkle, only 19 years old, being the man on first. With two outs, Al Bridwell hit a single to center, and the man on third came in to score. Merkle, taken up with the excitement, ran off into the dugout as fans stormed the field. Unfortunately, Merkle made a big mistake: he forgot to touch second base, meaning that he could be forced out, thus negating the run that had scored. Cubs second baseman Johnny Evers saw this, pummeled some fans for the ball, and stepped on second base. The umpire had no choice but to rule Merkle out, and the game remained tied at 1. Whoops!
Umpires could not restore order, and the game was cancelled. When the teams were tied at the end of the season, the game was replayed and the Cubs would win, 4-2, take the National League pennant, and beat the Detroit Tigers in the World Series. This would be the last time the Cubs ever won the World Series. All because of a mistake by a 19-year old ballplayer.
2007-06-18 19:45:16 · answer #2 · answered by Mike Hunt 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The runners at second and third would have definitley scored as long as they scored already. But if the Umpire signals out then the game is over 4 - 3.
If the Umpire who called the out was not the Home Plate Umpire then the call would be disputable. The coach for the assumed home team, (the team batting in the bottom of innings,) would have a chance to try to convince the Head Umpire to change the call; Similarily the visiting coach would have the same chance to protest against changing the call as said call ultimately decides who wins or loses.
If the call is not overturned by the Home plate Umpire then the final score would remain 4 - 3. The player from first base would be the laughing stock of the league for a fairly long time.
2007-06-18 19:52:44 · answer #3 · answered by KDII 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Here are my thoughts:
The runner on first base missed second base. The runners ahead of him should be allowed to score which makes the score 4-3. An appeal is made and the runner who was originally on first is called out. Any runs that occur after him do not count. So the final score is 4-3.
It's the same thing if no one is on base and a batter hits a home run and misses a base. If an appeal is made and upheld the batter is out and no runs score.
I found this reference in the rules, which seems to apply:
7.12 Unless two are out, the status of a following runner is not affected by a preceding runner's failure to touch or retouch a base. If, upon appeal, the preceding runner is the third out, no runners following him shall score. If such third out is the result of a force play, neither preceding nor following runners shall score."
http://62.152.127.74/ibaf/2003/AS/HE/RE/rule27.htm
2007-06-18 20:09:49 · answer #4 · answered by bowler 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The first two runs would count. The batter would be called out because he technically passed the runner from first base. The first base runner's run would not count because he failed to touch all the bases. Final score, 4-3.
2007-06-18 20:07:49 · answer #5 · answered by JerH1 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
The appeal wins, the runner is out, game over. Visiting team wins 4-1.
2007-06-18 19:34:47 · answer #6 · answered by greenhat1981 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The third out comes on an appeal play. Since the home run ball landed out of play (it's dead), the runners and the batter-runner are entitled to full advancement around the bases. Should be: three runs score, game tied, 9th over, on to the tenth.
2007-06-18 19:43:40 · answer #7 · answered by Chipmaker Authentic 7 · 2⤊ 3⤋
I have to tell you that the first three answer above are wrong. The batter who hit the homerun would be out at second base on an appeal play. Since the appeal occured after the other three runners scored the runners are all safe and score is tied at 4-4. Only the batter that hit the homerun is out on the appeal and his run would not count. Chipmaker is never wrong but his response was not posted when I was doing mine, He is correct, it's the three above him.
2007-06-18 19:51:10 · answer #8 · answered by Frizzer 7 · 0⤊ 4⤋
it counts as 3 outs
2007-06-18 19:34:09 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
I don't think you can call for a new ball. Home team wins.
2007-06-18 19:35:59 · answer #10 · answered by JT 4 · 0⤊ 5⤋