Do you consider lebanese people phoenicians?

Answer 1

Yeah Webby.......
I agree with you, and as a christian also, I like to think that my ancestors were phoenicians.
Some of their blood has to be running for our veins...in spite of Lebanon belongs to the Arab League.

Answer 2

Yes, they make up The Phoenician Club. They are very cool people.

There really is a large group of Lebanese all over the US and they have conventions every year in a different city and all meet up together. They are wonderful people!

Answer 3

they don't seem Arabs of their majority; they are the arabicized descendants of the Phoenicians, between the main substantial historic human beings interior the international, with a wealthy and unique custom. yet optimal of them have been brainwashed for thus long that they think of of they are Arabs. aside from, distinctive them are even pleased with being Arabs, in spite of the shown fact that I extremely have not met a single lebanese who could prefer to describe what this delight relies upon.

Answer 4

Yes !! Phoenicians are real, they are the Lebs!!, I read somewhere on this message board about them.
**Probably why the Lebanese are very smart** Owned!

This guy called Cloud knew what he was talking about...

http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AqMa5d5mW9fiz0uAw5fdh5fpFQx.?qid=20070608064006AAPHshD

Answer 5

I wish someone would explain to me the hype, the prestige, the privilege associated with us being phoenicians as opposed to arabs.

Being Christian maronite, I apparently have the honour to carry their genes and I am proud of their achievements, I am proud of the heritage they left, but they are our history: today I'm lebanese.

Phoenicians haven't existed for quite a few years now, and I've never met one of them so I'm not sure why I should go out of my way to convince people that they - and not arabs- are my grandfathers.

How does this make me a better person? I have yet to know.

Answer 6

No. No more than I consider myself an Anglo-Saxon. It's a bit like suggesting that someone from Cairo or Luxor is an Ancient Egyptian, or someone from Milan or Palermo a Roman!

Lebanon is a 'modern' (technically)¹, diverse, multicultural, secular society like the majority of cultures in the world. Whereas the Phoenicians were members of a Semitic people inhabiting ancient Phoenicia and its colonies. Primarily, like most major sociologically distinct human groups, they were an economic group - prospering from trade and manufacturing until their capital, Tyre, was sacked by Alexander the Great 332 years before Christ.

And that, basically, was that! No more Phoenicians!

The major point is that, I reiterate, they were like many other sociologically distinct groups: economic. That is to say: not genetic.

In fact, there is no such thing as a genetically distinct human group. webby's honour, as a Maronite, in carrying their genes is shared by all of us - everyone in the world! Maronite or communist. Jew or Muslim. black or white. As is, from a cultural point of view, the honour of sharing their alphabet - as the ancestor of THIS one.

Go back to Darwin's time (eight generations) and the number of people upon whose couplings your existence depends is over 250. Go further, to Shakespeare's time and it rises to over 16,380. "At twenty generations ago, the number of people procreating on your behalf has risen to 1,048,576. Five generations before that, and there are no fewer than 33,554,432 … By thirty generations ago, your total number of forebears - remember, these aren't cousins and aunts and other incidental relatives, but only parents and parents of parents in a line leading ineluctably to you - is over one billion (1,073,741,824, to be precise). If you go back to the time of the Romans [and that still leaves 305 years to go, if we wish to go all the way back to the Phoenicians' downfall] the number of people on whose co-operative efforts your eventual existence depends has risen to approximately 1 million trillion, which is several thousand times the total number of people who have ever lived."²

So, no genetic distinction, either.

I think the confusion stems from a phenomenon that webby discerns and for which Hot Coco Puff's admiration has clearly been enlisted - it is all about a sort of cultural (anthropologists might say 'tribal') 'one-up-man-ship'! Always a precursor and prerequisite of that most negative of all ideologies: nationalism.

We get exactly the same sort of line in England from people claiming to be of 'original Anglo-Saxon descent'. When in fact, as we have seen, this is pure tomfoolery - anywhere! (don't forget the maths, above).

Like Lebanon and for that matter, most geographical areas, England has always experienced a huge tidal ebb and flow of different cultures - we are a mongrel 'race' par excellence! (Moreover, we are an island, so the process unfolds even without the additional injection of diversity associated with ever shifting 'national' borders.)

Humankind is an ideological animal. And ideology is the 'modern' tribalism.

May peace return NOW to your beautiful land.
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¹Note: I say "technically" because when we view the expanse of human history, we like to think that 'now' is modern and 'a long while ago' is ancient. (But in terms of the history of our planet, and the other animals upon it, we humans have only just this second arrived.)

Personally I use much better, socio-historical, criteria for such periodisation - based on how humans actually behave towards each other. In my own humble opinion we will not be 'modern' until we have forever dispensed with notions of superiority and inferiority; games of one-up-man-ship; notions such as nationalism (and tribalism altogether); the Nation State, and like the wind itself: no longer feel the need to hide behind borders.

Ancient Phoenicians as well as ancient Anglo-Saxons did all that stuff and as long as we continue to do those things as well, we remain, historically, primitive. Not modern.

Answer 7

Yes lebanese people are phoenicians.

Answer 8

hey beautiful
i agree ith tuti that agrees with kate and webby and also hallambra agree with webby..

also fares you had a great answr !!

Answer 9

lebanese and only lebanese

Answer 10

if you consider Egyptians people Pharaons