Fertilisation is the begining of life, prove me wrong!?

Question

A human is completed at conception. Yet they have the right of a parasite until reaching 24 weeks of existance?

A clump of cells? we are all made up from clumps of cells! Do I get to inject lethal injection into pro abortionists clumps of cells, IE them- no I don't! DRs may give us stupid names like embryo & foetus leading up to our birth, but we all know they are talking about humans.

DRs are not impartial in the matter, as they wish to experiment on/mutilate & extract an embryos genetic matter. IVF produces excess embryos which are often destroyed as clinical waste. Plus the cost of delivering/raising each child is seen as a burden. To judge whether someones life is worth living is mere opinion.

I'm not particularly religious. But I would pray for scientists to create humans incapable of obtaining pleasure from intercourse & to unleash them on society. To breed & hopefully eliminate the sickness of the infliction. Rape & accidental pregnancy would become a thing of the past.

Answer 1

One of the characteristics of living organisms amongst the six is to grow . As soon as the egg and the sperm fuse , a zygote is formed and inter phase begins ( the process of cell division ) . I believe that this is where life begins . Before this , spermatozoa is just uni-nuclei cell and no cell division takes place within it .Which obviously means that growth is not one of its characteristics. Sperms are able to swim because they contain more mitochondria than most cells which stores ATP which is necessary and makes it possible for the sperm to wiggle its tail and move .Hormones make it possible for the sperms to be released .

Answer 2

I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about in reference to "the sickness of the infliction". At conception, the human embryo is not viable--it's not able to live outside the mother's body. I'm not sure what the shortest gestation is that has produced a viable birth, but I'm guessing it couldn't have been less than 20-24 weeks, because the lungs are not fully developed--lungs usually become fully developed at about the 25-26 week of pregnancy.

That's not to say that the fetus is not a living organism before the 24th week. It just can't survive without the benefit of the mother.

Doctors take the hipocratic oath--to do no harm. If they can save a mother's life, or increase the mother's quality of life, by aborting a child that cannot be viable, I'd say they are doing they're job.

Answer 3

Something like 70% of all fertilised eggs fail to implant, and are simply flushed out of the womb and die. This means that, using your criteria for establishing when life begins, nature (or God, if you are a believer) is by far the biggest abortionist ever.

Why don't anti-abortion campaigners do more to protect the millions of "babies" that are killed by nature? Next to this, the abortions carried out by doctors are simply a drop in the ocean.

As others have posted, there is no real beginning of "life". The definition that really matters is the beginning of "personhood". Now when that actually happens is of course still a matter of discussion - but at least we can have a more useful debate over that than a simple dogmatic assertion that life begins at fertilisation.

And yes, as someone above posted, until recently most religious people defined the beginning of life as "quickening", ie when the foetus began to move in the womb. The US Supreme Court decision that legalised abortion (Roe v Wade) specifically mentioned this.

Answer 4

A human is not complete at fetilization. A fertilized egg has no ability to think or feel. We humans put a lot of value in just how sentient a being is and that is what your fighting against. You'll have as much luck with this as getting people to love a paramecium.

People have been attempting to remove pleasure from sex for a very long time because it causes those types of problems. Circumcision has been conducted for thousands of years on many men and a few unlucky women. I'm not sure how effective it has been.

And by the way, i think accidental pregnancy has resulted in about half of the births since the beginning of time, we probably wouldnt have succeeded as a species without it.

Answer 5

Moot point - sperm and eggs are motile and driven by chemical instinct - all life is a bag of chemical interactions.
The seperation of LIFE must be (in my humble opinion) the existance of a sentient will - the point at which that crystalises is at debate - the only real answer has to be in human terms not at fertilisation but at the point when there is a reaction of the embryo to its environment.
That cut off point cannot be the same for every individual - therefore an arbitrary cut off cannot be assigned.
As a line in the sand - it must be at the point the embryo has a thought - since we cannot ask it - it must be drawn when it reacts to the world.
Much earlier than we currently think for termination purposes.

Answer 6

A parasite cannot live without a host... an embryo (zygote or whatever) cannot live without a host...

A parasite depends on another living organisms systems to deliver nutrients.... so do embryos

Have you ever been pregnant? It is a total body invasion and there are few women, even those that LOVED being pregnant, that would see it differently.

I thought catholic church once believed life began at the moment of movement but I would have to check on that.

I am not sure you have had the opportunity to do this but the moment I heard my daughter cry was the true beginning of her life. It is an amazing moment that people seem to forget when the make the arguement over when life begins. She took her first "breath" of oxygen in that moment. Her lungs touched air for the first time and she began to live.
"Prove me wrong!?"

Answer 7

wow....are you having a bad day or something? You seem well fired up here. I agree that it is at the fertilisation stage that life begins...but then I also think it may start prior to that. With the sperm being mobile, having a thought that it must find the egg, that it is driven to the egg. The egg also has a brain of sorts to know it has to allow only one sperm in, that it knows to spin when the head of the sperm detaches inside it so it spins off the other sperm trying to get in. Life begins a long time before these are fully mature......as soon as the egg and the sperm start to form it has a purpose and a role and instructions on how to get where it needs to be and what it has to do when it is there........so I think your statement is wrong...life begins when the cells start to create an egg and a sperm.

Answer 8

Before man walked on two feet there was life.

It is debatable whether this life was after a fertilization.

Place a bowl or bucket of ordinary tap water outside in your garden and watch everday for life to form.

Within 3-5 days you will view life in your bowl or bucket.

The human form is fine and its way of reproduction - it is only the mentality of humankind that is the problems.

I keep mentioning that I think the human race has a serious health problem that needs fixing - wanting to kill or harm another is one of the very serious mental issues.

PS All life is valuable and should be honoured as being part of the marvels of nature and creation.

Answer 9

What is the definition of life?
Often scientists say that life is a characteristic of organisms that exhibit the following phenomena:
Homeostasis: Organization, Metabolism, Growth, Adaptation, Response to stimuli, Reproduction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life

Therefore, the human is the individual living organism not the sperm or the egg or any other separate part of the body. As long as the being can support itself it is a form of life. However I know of nobody that can support themselves and reproduce (one of the requirements for life above) without the help of other humans. This would imply that humans are not individuals but part of one body, one being and one cycle of life. Therefore, by destroying humans or any part of the life cycle of which we are part, we destroy ourselves.

However one could argue that destruction is a part of life; without it the inferior would not be eliminated and nothing could evolve, therefore life could not exist (another of the listed requirements: adaption)

Answer 10

A group of cancerous cells are living organisms, they have cell metabolism, respiration etc. Would you defend the killing of such cells with chemotherapy? Or would you like to see the back of it, if God forbid, you got cancer? Honestly the likes of you have nothing better to do than to be self-righteous. Why don't you lot get a life instead and focus on that? Each to their own and you have no right to tell people how to live their lifes as, I'm sure, you are no angel either.