2007-06-17 00:23:59 · 10 answers · asked by spud 1 in Home & Garden ➔ Do It Yourself (DIY)
you most likely can but your all your hard work may pop back out of place. the tile needs a good backing and with out one your work could easy fall apart
2007-06-17 00:33:23 · answer #1 · answered by Drew 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
After installing thousands of sq. ft. of flooring, and removing as much, all the answers so far have a valid suggestion. "You Shouldn't"
It happens however that you clearly asked "CAN" as opposed to "May I" and very directly the answer is yes. You did kind of get around any direct disclaimers by asking "CAN YOU" as opposed to "Can I"...Will you be happy with the result??? Only you will know; and if not you expended a considerable amount of time energy, money, and material for a loss.
Without knowing the condition of the Vinyl "Tiles" or the method by which they were installed, for some purposes they might actually be an OK underlayment, but not for tile and mortar. Vinyl isn't porous for one thing, offers nothing for mortar to strictly adhere to, and as at least one other says can curl, slip, roll, pop. Given the thickness of most vinyl tile or even sheet stock it's highly unlikely you'd ever have a "Cushion"/"Bounce" effect in any case.
Not knowing what the current substrate is, you should remove the vinyl, prep the substrate, remove base moldings, and properly install the tile. I'll assume these are Milled, manufactured SLATE, or a Slate look tile. The install would be the same, but Slate "IS POROUS" and should be sealed, especially in areas where it may come in contact with water or moisture often, IE: Kitchen/bath.
In my work, in the trades, I enjoy what I do, and not being called back for a job I put my name on. If contracted to install your tile, I'd likely refuse the job if you wanted the vinyl to remain.
As another answer alludes to,,, to add a new substrate, plus a 1/4 inch run of mortar, and tile possibly 1/4 thick, the height you add will be negligible, up to any transition areas, Then you'll have added problems.
Steven Wolf
2007-06-17 08:10:59 · answer #2 · answered by DIY Doc 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The answer to your question is YES you can, the thing you need to know is what is the subfloor under the vinyl tiles? If it is concrete then absolutely...just rough up the vinyl with sandpaper and prime the floor with a floor primer so the thinset will adhere to the vinyl and go ahead and install the slate. Now if the subfloor under the vinyl is wood then absolutely not. Slate or any other ceramic type of tile needs a concrete subfloor as it's base due to the fact that a wood subfloor is flexible and eventually your slate will start popping up. Good Luck
2007-06-17 15:08:14 · answer #3 · answered by fastjeepchick 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Why wouldn't you just rip up the vinyl tiles and masonite base ? It's not that hard. If you are going to put slate on top, it will hide any damage you do. I'd be worried about the moisture from the slurry under the slate tiles causing the vinyl tiles to lift off and causing cracks later on. I suppose you could glue the slate down ? Wont this make your floor too high compared to your skirting boards ? Whenever we tried to take a shortcut in our renovations, we always struck problems and it ended up taking twice as long and costing twice as much. In the finish, we found it better to start from scratch.
2007-06-17 07:30:53 · answer #4 · answered by =42 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Not a good idea. You would have to put down a sub floor, and this would raise the level of the floor in the room. The vinyl tiles would probably be bouncy, and eventually you'd have the grout cracking and releasing the slate tiles.
2007-06-17 07:41:14 · answer #5 · answered by Beau R 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I wouldn't. The vinyl tiles will squash and bounce when you walk on them and the grout you use for the slate tiles isn't designed for that sort of movement.
It'll look awful in no time.
2007-06-17 07:28:58 · answer #6 · answered by Tree[Crash]Doh! 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
For the best results you will need to lift the vinyl tiles.
2007-06-17 07:32:27 · answer #7 · answered by T W 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You can, but it's risky.
Two prerequisites for tiling over vinyl flooring:
1. The vinyl floor must be full-spread glued down, not perimeter glued.
2. You'll need a high-quality, latex-modified thinset.
Still, I don't recommend it. Rip it up and start fresh.
2007-06-19 15:59:19 · answer #8 · answered by B 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
i wouldnt recomend it over the years the vinyl tiles will sweat an d start to rise and warp your slate tiles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2007-06-19 12:29:38 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
.It is not a wise thing to do
2007-06-18 12:09:02 · answer #10 · answered by Mick 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋