Feminists: True right wing agenda: Fighting the Unholy Rebellion of the Childless?

Question

I've been wondering why the US right-wing is not only fighting abortion, but fighting birth control availability as well (individual pharmacists can refuse to fill birth control prescriptions in many US states, among other limits on contraceptives). The article below points out what right-wingers believe: "Christians must recognize that this rebellion against parenthood represents nothing less than an absolute revolt against God's design." and "The church should insist that the biblical formula calls for adulthood to mean marriage and marriage to mean children."

So is the right wing agenda not just about fighting for control of women's bodies and abortion, but it's really about fighting for control of birth control and it's true goal is fighting for control of marriage, so the right-wing can force men and women to have children, since they think that "marriage means children"?

Or are there other reasons right-wingers don't want US women to have access to contraceptives?

Unholy Rebellion of the Childless article:
http://atheism.about.com/b/a/128222.htm

Answer 1

As a woman who had to raise my child alone I can verify that these people exist in all their forms. They only want married people to have kids. They don't believe in birth control. They don't believe in raising women's wages yet they don't believe in welfare. They have no solutions for people with real health and reproductive illness (infertile, limited fertility, painful sex, ETC ETC ETC). They don't acknowledge any other reality but healthy young people having sex and making lots of CHRISTIAN babies.

Answer 2

What the Right Wing really wants (although they're usually too politically savvy to come out and say it) is to turn the clock back to the 1950s. They believe that society should be set up around the traditional family where the man works and the woman stays at home and takes care of the kids, and where the man is firmly in control. They think that's the way all human beings should live. Why? I think it's all about power.

Under traditional Roman law the father, the paterfamilas, had absolute power. He ruled his wife and his children in the way a king ruled a country; he could do anything to them, they had no rights. And I'm firmly convinced that the ugly truth is that the people most fervently behind the Right's "family values" platform are men who miss having that kind of power.

Naturally, these men are deeply threatened by anything that destabilizes the traditional family structure, because the traditional family structure is the base of their power. Feminism is deeply threatening to them because it compromises the power they have over their women. Contraception and abortion is deeply threatening to them because it gives women power over their own fertility and, well, see above. Childlessness and singleness is deeply threatening to them, again, because it represents an alternative to the traditional family structure from which they get their power. Homosexuality is deeply threatening to them for the same reason. Men like me are, I'm sure, deeply threatening to them as well.

BTW don't misinterpret this as saying I think the traditional family is inherently opressive or anything, I think it's a perfectly good system, I'm just saying...

Answer 3

The people who you are referring to do not want America to change. They want it to stay the same way that it was for their parents & their grandparents in hopes that they can turn things around & have a "safe & clean society" without the turmoil that now exists. They are dreamers & they seem to have the most difficulty in accepting others just as they are. These people cannot adapt themselves to change. The Bible is their instruction book & the men on the pulpit are manipulators who have done a good job of controlling their "flock" by using words to twist the minds of the listeners who are desperately searching for a way into the "gates of heaven"! Bottom line is that it all just boils down to plain old ignorance, because the words that they read in that Bible have a completly different meaning than the definitions that have been printed in the English language dictionaries & mistranslated from one language into another. Some people are born followers & others are born leaders. America is a country that is made up of people who came here to escape religious persecution. The problem is that the persecutors followed them & have learned to abuse the wording of the Constitution to get their way & to this day still are attempting to get us all to believe in Jesus or at least pretend to be, as most Americans seem to be doing because it makes them look like "team players". Women should have choices, but along with those choices, there should also be education & information that goes along with the contraceptives & abortions. For some reason, this info seems to lacking in many clinics & women are not receiving factual information in order for them to make an INFORMED decision in regards to how they choose their birth control & other medical procedures that are available to them. Women are once again being but into a dark corner of misinformation or no information & that is worse than forcing them into giving birth to a full term fetus! Less is not more when it comes to your body & getting all the facts to make an informed decision seems to be getting shoved aside by the left & the right sides who both want to control the freedom of information act!

Answer 4

This is another good example of how religion poisons everything. The notion of sanctity of human life is so anti-life that I find it difficult to believe that so many people buy into this superstition. Too many people are brainwashed from birth to have faith in god. Too may people that have this faith suffer from the delusion that this faith will allow them to go to paradise when they die. Imagine there's no heaven, (it's easy if you try) this is the only life you will ever know. You were nothing for eternity past and in a brief period of time, you will return to this state of non-existence. The only formula needed to live a good decent, ethical, and moral life is what you might know as the Golden Rule ... and no, Christians did not invent it. It is common decency, something Christians, Muslims, Jews, and most other major religions evidently don't believe in. In a world of over population, common sense dictates that birth control should be available to anyone with the intelligence to want it. Christian based charities do not even think it should be given to people in third world countries where the infant mortality rate is a tragedy. They don't support stem cell research because they are so mind boggling stupid, that they think this soul is somewhere inside a blastocyst. So millions of people that could benefit from this promising technology are suffering and dying every day because we would not want to offend the pope or any of the other fools that think that their life is so important that a Santa Claus god gives a flying hoot about their meager existence. Respect life. If people want to enjoy sex, but don't want kids, then good for them. Support them. They are being responsible about one of the furn things life has to offer. Sex is natural, not something we should be ashamed of. I am picking on Christian values because they are what is the predominant problem in this world today. Islam will be the predominate problem of tomorrow because it is the fastest growing religion. They both are practiced by fools. Wake up world. You are just another natural phenomenon like light, gravity, time and space. Enjoy this life as much as you can while you can. Don't let a bunch of superstitious imbeciles control your life. Fight back. They are the immoral ones. The only hell is the one they create on earth during this life. It is only a matter of time before religion kills us all. It is a deadly disease. Peace, love, and common sense are all you need. Unfortunately those who have it are in the minority, and will be killed by the pious jerks who suffer from their delusional doctrines. Don't worry though; it will be peaceful when you are dead. I didn't have a care in the world until after I was born. Neither did you. To live is to be sick a very long time. (Socrates) But, very long is less than the blink of an eye.

Answer 5

I think they simply want to punish women for the "sin" of sexuality. Frankly, I've never understood this. My friend Elizabeth actually has TEN kids and is a fan of choice and access to birth control. She's into babies, not into controlling other women. She inspires a lot of young women to want children, since her kids are all kind and well-behaved. Those yahoos could learn a lot from that approach.

Doesn't it seem that these guys are the same ones who are anti-welfare? Like Tommy Thompson - trying to chisel away at a woman's right to choose while slashing welfare rolls. Awfully mean-spirited.

EDIT: Stormsinger, you're "lucky"... I didn't qualify in my state for Medicaid, because, although we were broke and hubby's company had no insurance program, I was married and therefore ineligible. We're *still* paying the bill off, nearly four years later. Lousy, huh? But your child should qualify once he or she is born. Vote Dem and let's get health insurance for all! LOL

Answer 6

The right wing is feeling threatened. Christianity is no longer the dominant religion in America, multiculturalism has overtaken it. The RRR (to swipe an acronym from the poster above) sees it's best chance of survival as creating a new generation of sheeple to blindly follow them. In addition to controlling marriage and reproduction, they are attempting to control education by providing religious based conferences for homeschooling families. When children are not exposed to the social elements of public eduction, it is easier to indoctrinate them into the desired beliefs. It is not uncommon for a homeschooling family to have 5, 8 or even 12 children, all of whom are expected to perpetuate the beliefs of the RRR.

Sorry, I seem to have gone off on a tangent...

The part that puzzles me is that when a woman is denied BC and abortion, does she give the child up for adoption? And are the RRRs planning to adopt these babies?

It seems to me that limiting access to BC and legal abortion would only increase the number of illegal, unsafe abortions, and the ensuing complications. I don't get it.

Answer 7

In America, right-wing almost always means the "Religious" Radical Right, and has, ever since the detestable late Jerry Fallwell organized a collection ob bigoted losers left over from the segregationist era, pseudo-Christians, and low-IQ (and thus connable-by-propaganda) actual Christians into a VERY loathsome political faction.

The nitwits of the RRR Cult have NO respect for any and all personal liberties they happen to disagree with. If they ever could achieve majority political power, we'd see how fast America could become a titanium-clad tyranny. There is NOTHING Christian or rational about the RRR Cult.

Just for fun, ask a RRR Cult lemming to present you with so much as even ONE single FACT that supports any of their moronic and hateful agendas. He/she will NOT be able to do that. Guaranteed! NO such facts even exist. They are brainwashed, and their hate-agendas are entirely driven by ignorance and irrational emotionalism.

RRR cultists are America's most clueless and bigoted louts.

Fortunately, they comprise only 5% of the population.

But UNfortunately, THIS pertains, until their agendas are driven by common-sense and fair-minded egalitarians into extinction:

RRR : Society :: 5% Arsenic solution : glass of drinking water

Answer 8

The reasons you listed are just a cover up of the real reasons. Any good economists (which I somewhat am) is profit. If women can't abort and don't have access to much birth control, this makes more children. The parents will be forced to find a job to pay for the children. If this happens in large quantities, this will increase the number of working people and wages will be able to decrease even further since more people will be out looking for jobs. Hence companies will make more of a profit. Now let's look at the children: they will eventually grow up and also need to find a job and this will create a cycle. Those children will have kids and will be forced to find a job, etc, etc. Besides, you should know, the Church is extremely controlling and smart. It was originally created to control the people. The ''Worship God'' aspect of the Church is merely a cover up.

Answer 9

Yes, that is part of their agenda.
Following is an example of a website devoted to teaching such dogma to children from birth.
When I was in a Fundy church, we were often spoken to from the pulpit on the virtue of having "Children for Christ".
I still receive such publications in the mail, since I like to stay in touch with how the Right is proceeding.
Good luck

Answer 10

Feminists actual time table is to get purely the rights that wholesome females, push adult adult males out of households and pretend its equality. in sweden case in point equality purely favours females as adult adult males there ought to connect the defense force and probability there lives if a warfare broke out, yet it relatively isn't equality in any respect and why any guy might preserve a rustic crammed with the very people who regard him as dispensable i do no longer understand.