Do you guys think that right wing conservatives have moved from patriotism to outright nationalism?

Question

I consider myself to be patriotic and love the USA but I cannot stand the outright nationalism of some people like Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Michael Savage, and all the other right wing talk show hosts. They just go overboard with their speeches. How they will not apologize for the US's misdeeds and admit that sometimes we were wrong. Its not even patriotism anymore, its outright nationalism. Anyone else agree?

The way they make anyone who doesnt agree with them out to be a traitor or how they define whats patriotic? Thats jingoism, nationalism, out right right wing stuff.
They should get out of the Party of Lincoln and establish their own party instead of complaining that the GOP isnt "conservative enough".

Farly the Seer,
I hope you think that most people who are not right wing can easily notice the difference in danger between Al-Queda and Sean Hannity. My point is that the right wing in America is countering any position their opponents take by questioning their loyalty. And how could you not think that supporting Right Wing dictators during the Cold War was not a mistake? Please, I am willing to admit our faults during history to avoid making them again so our country can grow for the better. I do not see attacks on our policies as something "unpatriotic", but a sincere attempt to not make the same same mistakes we made in the past.
The Rigt Wing in this country has hijacked the Party of Lincoln and turned it into something it never was. Republican ideals were founded on the principles of Hamiltonian Federalism. It was a very moderate party that supported many federal issues. Now its almost the mirror image of the Confederate Party during the Civil War!

Answer 1

I do agree, however it's more like jingoism.

Main Entry: jin·go·ism
Pronunciation: 'ji[ng]-(")gO-"i-z&m
Function: noun
: extreme chauvinism or nationalism marked especially by a belligerent foreign policy

Answer 2

This is part of the whole master plan of the Republican Elite. Hannity and the rest really do not believe the crap they are sprouting but they are appealing to a base. Years ago Lee Atwater devised a plan by which the Republican party attracted white middle class and poor Americans by appealing to a sense of patriotism. They then started with Ron Regan a strong streak of anti-intellectualism.

So that having a education became a bad thing. The elite of course continued to get educated. Over the past 30 years the massive part of the Republican party has more and more rejected education and intellectualism and embraced knee jerk reactions to non-issues ( gay marriage, flag burning, Monica et al)

Now the next step is to turn that patriotism that the body of the party feels into Nationalism and to equate Nationalism, patriotism and the Republican Party with America

Notice how they have painted Liberal as a bad word. Even the trolls on here play along equaling Liberal with Communist

I am not into conspiracy theories but there is a difference between an over all plan and a conspiracy.

Answer 3

"Do you guys think that right wing conservatives have moved from patriotism to outright nationalism?"

Yes.

"I consider myself to be patriotic and love the USA but I cannot stand the outright nationalism of some people like Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Michael Savage, and all the other right wing talk show hosts."

I consider you to be patriotic, too. It's certainly possible to be a conservative and a patriot... as easily as for a liberal to be a patriot. But maturity is required from both.

Thanks for the question. It gave me hope.

Answer 4

They didn't "move" from patriotism to outright nationalism, so much as they've always embraced and displayed the latter. Advocating colossal and disastrous blunders like this war in Iraq can't be explained in terms of things that make sense or are good for the country (no WMD, very limited and ever-decreasing international support, no credible link to 9/11, an "end to major combat" that somehow hasn't quite lived up to its billing, and no end in sight). Neocon pundit solution: wrap yourself in the flag and dismiss everyone else as anti-American traitors.

Answer 5

OMG, finally some people with common sense. I know the rhetoric between both sides has gone into crazy mode, but there is something very disturbing about conservative talk radio's extreme rhetorical gibberish - so extreme to the point that they justify anything they want to promote regardless if it is logically sound or not. If you ask me, this type of propaganda push is dishonest and dangerous. Far too many people eat this stuff up and never pause to consider the big picture.

Answer 6

The public face of conservatism is more a cheer leader section for a group of people who have no touch with reality. Much like the first George Bush presidency, these people don't see things the way the majority of Americans see them.

Insulated from reality by money and influence, these greedy people want nothing from the majority but their willingness to do nothing to upset their status quo.

Answer 7

Yes, they remind me a bit of the Nazis. Being patriotic is one thing but nationalism is just blind loyalty even if your country is wrong, a true patriot corrects his country to save it from destruction.

Answer 8

more like treason if you ask me.
nationalism is right wing philosphy.
they want the rich to control everything, because supposedly they are better at it, while everyone else lives in destitution, recieving enough pay to eat and pay transportation to and from work.
pretty much the same philosphy Hitler had.

Answer 9

Why focus your anger and negativity on "America lovers"? There's nothing wrong with that, even if they get a bit over-zealous. All kinds of people can love America in all different ways, and we can all be right. Saying these people are nationalists (whatever that implies) because they're always so positive is the same as saying the negative people are unpatriotic. Anti-war people don't want to be called unpatriotic, so nobody should be calling the other side nationalists.

And the "mistakes" you refer to are your opinion. Just because you think they're mistakes doesn't mean everyone else does, or that they are mistakes just because you think so.

Why not spend some time raving about the evil of al-Qaeda, or Hamas, or Hezbollah? Do you really think, with all that's going on in the world, that the problem is people like Sean Hannity?

Answer 10

I think that these people are driven by their paychecks. Let's learn from Don Imus that his actions were in a great part driven by the demands of his employers for being controversial. The more controversial these radio personalities can be, the higher the amount of their paychecks.

Answer 11

The right-wing was never patriotic in the first place. You can't bepatriotic--nor even be considered anything other than disloyal--when you turn your back on the Constitution and the rights and liberty our forefathers fought and died to secure for us.