I'm an Independent and I don't want to vote for a Republican or Democrat. Y does any ?

Question

dealing with someone being Independent, do so many people say well you can vote in a Primary. The state of new york has an Indepent primary. And most Independent voters are looking for someone who has their own ideas not a party that they have to vote with.

I am A rgeristered INDEPENDENT

Answer 1

Ron Paul is definitely the way to go. In response to the above answer, Ron Paul, as a federalist, would get rid of a lot of the federal government, since a lot of it is wasteful, ineffecient and ineffective (look at FEMA). But things like healthcare and education could very well be done by individual states the way that they choose.

Answer 2

New York does not have an "independent" primary in the sense of a primary for unaffiliated candidates. New York has a political party which calls itself the "Independence" Party. Candidates of the Independence Party are not independents, but rather belong to a political party with its own specific platform to which its candidates subscribe. (There are several other "third" parties in New York which you can also consider if you do not like the Republicans or the Democrats).

New York has some of the most difficult ballot access laws in the country -- designed to keep true independents and new third parties off the ballot. Even to get on the primary ballot takes effort and a significant number of signatures of voters of the party in which you are running.

Finally, for the most part, primaries in New York are closed primaries.

You can join the Independence Party if you agree with their platform and vote in their primary, but that is substantially different from have a true open independent primary.

Answer 3

I respect your choice to think independently. I wish more voters were like you.

But I think why they suggest you vote in a primary is because the two major parties have dominated the scene for so long that they naturally assume that those two candidates are the only ones that can win.

For national candidates, I fear that they may be right. On a local level, though, it's very possible for independent candidates to put together solid campaigns and win elections. If more did it locally, that would eventually open things up on a larger scale. So feel free to keep doing what you're doing.

For myself, I've taken my independent mind into one of the big parties and I'm trying to influence it that way. Remember, the parties are nothing but a collection of individuals, and over time, we can change the platform of the parties too. Right now, for example, the Republican party is in flux, and fighting over which direction to go. So that might be worth a battle. But use your own judgment. You never have to vote with a party...even if you're a member.

Answer 4

Well, start a party. Don't expect to make an impact other than a negative one.

If the govt started paying for campaigns, and getting the business whores out of plying their wares, perhaps you might have a shot. Until then, hate to say it, but you are wasting your vote. If you are more in tune with the democrats or republicans, your vote could effect an election and get another George Bush elected!

I mean, you need yo be a little pragmatic about it. There is NO possibility under the current system to get the Independents on the ballots in 50 states and then you have to pull a percentage of the vote to even get any financing at all! Tall order! Not impossible, but it highly unlikely!

Answer 5

That is your choice but not ours, I will vote Democrat until the day I die. You might be able to get turn coat Joe Lieberman to run for your Independent President , but you better watch out because he is just like a Pit Bull, he'll turn on you.

Answer 6

i was planning on voting into a 3rd party until i ran into mike Gravel... he is in the D party but he is really a populist & libertarian. read this:

There are a total of 3 honest politicians currently running in the 2 main parties.


In democrat you have:
Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich

In republican you have:
Ron Paul.

-Kucinich is decent but I think he isn’t assertive enough.

-Paul has an awesome grasp on the reality of what government policies are useless and corrupt but I get the impression that he wants to wipe out the government totally. He is a constitutionalist and wants the federal government to only have say in laws described in the constitution and nothing else.

-Mike Gravel is who I am voting for. He is bluntly honest about everything and is a populist and libertarian at the same time all about giving power to the people.

*he wrote the national initiative for democracy (NID). A bill that will give the voting public the ability to vote directly on laws at the federal level. Look at how useless our national representatives have become. Republicans won’t end the war so we flip democrats into office and once they get there they say oops we changed our minds we also want to drag out the war. http://www.nationalinitiative.us/

*he recently wrote "UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES
WITHDRAWAL FROM IRAQ ACT" which would make it a felony for the president to continue the war in Iraq if he refused to bring home the troops. It would pass quite easily if done in the way he outlines and if after that the president refused to follow the law he would commit a felony and be automatically impeached by his own actions. http://www.gravel2008.us/?q=node/1191 however the other democrats in office choose to ignore this act because they too want to continue the war. 1 they want to draw out the war as a political maneuver to catapult the party into office due to anti-republican sentiment. Look at the "debates" and this is clear. They are trying to direct all the problems of the universe at bush and the republicans in general when they are just as guilty. (Gravel, Paul, & Kucinich are the only ones that would ACTUALLY end the war if elected. the others are full of it)

*HE is the man that ended the draft in Viet Nam.

*he will END the war on drugs. Stop wasting money on an ineffective program ($7.6 billion per year). End the prohibition on marijuana and make the others prescribe-able and treat addiction as a medical problem rather than a criminal problem. The laws do not seem to stop anyone and turn otherwise rational people into criminals. The United States had an estimated 17,500 metric tons of marijuana available in 2001, or 17,500,000 kilos or 17,500,000,000 grams. If we were to place a tax on marijuana, the United States would take in billions every year. For example, a tax of $2 per gram would bring the street price of a 10 gram pack to about $30-$40 depending on the quality. It would also raise $35 billion per year, which could go to help fund public education; just add general revenues to the system, etc.

*he will declassify all government programs designed to hide the truth from us the American public. While in the senate he read the "pentagon papers" into public record thereby revealing much of Richard Nixon’s corruption to the people. Nixon attempted to bring charges against him and it went all the way to the Supreme Court where it was decided that a senator could not be prosecuted for declassifying such records that were essential the integrity of the law. All of the front runners looove secrets.

*eliminate the income tax and the IRS. Instantly eliminate the current 67,204 page tax code, instantly eliminate the $10.2 billion cost to run the IRS, instantly eliminate the $256.1 billion cost in compliance costs currently placed on tax payers, and eliminates the payroll tax. Eliminates increased taxes due to tax evasion, eliminates law breaking due to lack of understanding of the tax code, eliminates wealthy special interests tax exemptions that effectively un-tax anyone that can come up with enough write-offs. Creates new tax revenue from foreign tourists, creates new tax revenue from illegal immigrants who currently pay no taxes. The prebate maintains extra income to families that are registered to receive it, and maintains income to people that are between jobs. See fairtax.org

*place all taxes gained from carbon based fuels into a fund to research carbon free forms of energy.

*end all forms of discrimination in the law regarding LGBT. None of this civil union bullcrap. Civil unions are the modern day version of Jim Crow laws.

*Healthcare in the form of vouchers. People don’t realize that most of our healthcare is already paid by the government in the form of tax write offs your employer gets when they pay for your insurance. Individuals don’t get this option but they do. All of these tax codes are designed to perpetuate the strangling grip insurance has on everyone. Another reason to abolish the IRS and switch to the "Fairfax" people think they need insurance but insurance is the reason no one can afford healthcare. Cutting out insurance will save millions maby more... instead you apply for a voucher to pay for your basic medical needs or serious issues when you have an emergency. Special treatment and cosmetic procedures would be private pay. The others want to just flush more money into insurance companies.

*all of these things combine into an immigration policy far better than any of the current fluff. Illegals cant apply for healthcare vouchers, illegals can no longer avoid paying taxes and cant receive the prebate which puts a strain on them to want to leave but then this might be unnecessary because the Fairfax will make the prices of American produced products much more competitive globally thereby attracting more businesses here and creating a need for more legal workers. He will abolish NAFTA as it exists now to eliminate the way it funnels money into a few corporations and away from workers.

The end, gravel rocks. Gravel + Paul/Kucinich = best possible combination in the white house. All the others are corrupt and liars.