who is more likeliy to get into HOF, McGwire, Canseco, or Bonds?

Question

I think that Bonds is being screwed over by our country's constant practice of condemning people without any proof. I think that unless he tests positive for steroids, Bonds should be a hall of famer and should not have the home run record be tarnished. On the other hand McGwire and Canseco both admitted to taking steroids and i believe should be left out of the HOF

Answer 1

Bond is the most likely to get it especially once he hits number 756. The only way he won't end up in the HOF is if it can be proved that he cheated. He would have to fail a steroids test. Big Mac sealed his fate before congress and Canseco sealed his fate by admitting to taking roids.

Answer 2

McGwire hasn't admitted to any such thing. Where does this sort of nonsense come from?

Bonds gets in. He earned his Hall plaque when he stepped on the field on Opening Day of his tenth season.

Canseco is already toast, by the writers' ballot anyway, and I cannot imagine the current incarnation of the VC, if he ever gets on that ballot, will treat him more kindly. (Canseco was first on the ballot this year, 2007, and received 6 votes for a 1.1% return, well below the 5.0% minimum for retention. While I don't think he was a Hall-class player regardless of his training regimen, I do think the writers, at least a few, owed him a bit more respect than that, simply because he was a walking headline who made their professional lives so very easy. Honestly, was there ever a more automatic way to fill a column at the daily deadline than with ANY Jose topic, filed under "Canseco does something stupid -- AGAIN!"

No, not a HOFer, but the writers should have, this one time, been a tad more forgiving to someone who was such a monumental boon to their profession. And then trashed him in 2008. Oh well.)


McGwire -- well, we'll know more after the 2008 returns are announced.

The Hall has not taken any position regards steroids, though its current ineligibility exclusions would apply indirectly.

Answer 3

I certainly think that by the time Bonds is eligible (time wise) the legal stuff will be sorted out and he will be declared ineligible for the well established legal reasons.

Canseco would have been a lock being the founding member of the 40-40 club, of course he has publicly admitted doing steroids. The fact that he was already retired and Bonds continues to play in spite of the fact that it has been established that he's juiced makes Bonds' cheating even worse.

McGwire has admitted no cheating and there is no credible evidence. Even when he was playing he openly admitted using substances which were legal at the time but have since been banned by MLB. I don't think he can be classified as cheating if what he was taking was legal when he took it.

Final answer: Mark McGwire.

Of course the other two will be mentioned in the Hall, they just won't be members.,

Answer 4

Canseco was on the ballot this year and only received 1% (or something like that) of the vote, so he will never have a chance again. I think that McGwire and Bonds will both "eventually" be elected to the HOF. Once the sportswriters who vote get off of their high horses and realize that neither of these players ever failed a drug test while playing in the MLB. Supposed to be innocent until proven guilty in this country.

Answer 5

Bonds is the only one who has a shot. And even that is contingent upon how all of the steroid stuff is concluded. Canseco really wasnt a legitimate contender for several reasons. Mac? Well, take away the HR's and he's probably note even a bench player. He's Dave Kingman all over again. But the single season "record" for two years...or was it one...would have gotten him in. His act in front of Congress will keep him out.

That's the difference between Mac and Bonds. Bonds would have made it without steroids. Mac, on the other hand, wouldnt even have been considered.

Answer 6

McGwire never admitted to roids, it was something that I can't spell, and it was legal at that time, both for use in the US, and in baseball( or it wasn't banned by baseball til after he admitted useing it) Antetopiaiea?

Canseco did, and also said both Bonds, and McGwire did it with him( Bonds during his home run chase of Big Mac)

I don't know why you people don't get it, Bonds said he took roids, he just claimed "He didn't know" he did it, and the trainer that gave it to him, has stayed locked up in jail, 4 different times, rather then say anything to dispute bonds
even after he got get out of jail free cards, from proscutors which is why judges keep locking him up.

All that being said, Every thing says that Bonds didn't start taken roids til the late '90's and he had a HOF career before that, and is the most likely to get in.

Answer 7

Canseco will never get into the HOF. His numbers aren't good enough and his book which details all of cheating with steroids won't help his cause. He's been essentially black balled from baseball. You will never see Jose Canseco participate in Major League baseball function ever again. No All-Star games, no special guest announcer. Nothing.

Mark McGwire, I don't remember him ever admitting to taking steroids. I thought it was lack of admission that has everyone upset. He has the numbers and if he doesn't have to compete with the likes of Cal Ripkin and Tony Gywnn for votes he could get in. It may take a few years, but he should be in.

Barry Bonds will defiantly get in. Only Babe Ruth holds more records than Barry Bonds. How can you deny a 7-time MVP. You can't.

Answer 8

There is a lot of proof that Bonds took steroids, read up on it. Look at him when he was a Pirate, that ain't natural. I guess O.J. has been condemned without proof, too. The HR record will be tarnished, unless there is a miracle and he drops dead from a heart attack caused by years of steroid abuse before he breaks it. Canseco never would have made it anyway. McGwire's recent HOF ballot may be a sign of what Barry can look forward to... no Hall of Fame. Writers hate Bonds.

Answer 9

I don't think Canseco has any chance. Bonds could go, but I don't think he will make it on his first try, ala McGwire.

The only thing worse than "our country's constant practice of condemning people without any proof" is our country's inability to see the truth when it is right in front of us. Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Palmero, Caminiti, and the list goes on, cheated. You can call for proof or a test or cite the fact that steroids weren't against baseball's rules at the time. But they all knew it wasn't right.

If Bonds showed remorse, said he used back in the day but stopped when he had to due to the rules, he'd be shunned for a few years, then he'd go into the hall. It isn't that he cheated that is geting him in trouble. It is his arrogance about his cheating that is his worst enemy. Canseco is an idiot, McGwire hid from the light of truth, Palmero lied to Congress, and Caminiti is dead from heart failure (a known side-effect of the juice).

Bonds, well he thinks he is only wrong if he gets caught, and in reality, that is what is wrong with our country, not our practice of condemning without proof.

Answer 10

Canseco has no shot. I'd say McGwire has the best chance cause all the people that would decide whether Bonds would go in the HOF hate him, so I dont think he has a chance of making it in.