Are these Hall of fame numbers?

Question

If a player had these numbers:

3059 Hits
367 Home runs
1552 RBI
.265 batting average

Will this player make the hall of fame of baseball?

Answer 1

Your name suits you well, because the stats of a player like this is a mirage, dude! No one could have 3059 hits and a .265 batting average, unless they never took a walk in their life, or played 25+ years and had over 12,000 at bats.

If this player did exist, other factors would come into play, as to how his defense was, and/or how many championships he won. Kirby Puckett and Bill Mazeroski are not HOF'ers by their stats, but both won championships (and were clutch W.S. performers) and were excellent defensive players.

But if this player played first base or corner outfield (LF or RF), and did not win anything, definitely NO with a .265 BA.

Answer 2

Well this is obviously a hypothetical question because your stats don't match anybody that has played or is currently playing. I would say the stats do not match up to a Hall of Fame Career, but they might give it to him for longevity.

In order to accumulate 3059 hits while batting a career .265 batting average, you would have to play 25+ years. The best example is Ricky Henderson who played for 25 years and had 3055 hits while batting .279.

The Homeruns are low, but the RBI's are right there in the top 40 all time.

Answer 3

Well, considering he has over 11,000 AB, his longevity helps, as the only player with that many AB to not make the Hall is Pete Rose.

This player would be 7th in AB alltime, 20th in hits, 37th in RBI, and 64th in HR.

This is a strong case, but it's not a sure thing without more stats.

I'm comparing his achievements with baseball-reference's HOF standards. I'm missing a lot of stats that would push his bid. He's at least a 22, and the average HOF is 50 (Max 100). I'm sure he got at least some walks, doubles and steals. If he did this at a tough defensive position, he's a sure shot.

I can't tie these stats to a single player, so I'll leave it up to you to see if his career is worthy, with more numbers. The formula baseball-reference uses for HOF standards is below.

So, in brief, it's hard to tell with just four stats, but he must have scored enough runs and other extra base hits to get into the 30's... it's a tough call.

Answer 4

Several people make valid points, but the Hall of Fame voters have brain-washed a lot of people. The Hall is supposed to be about greatness and not just longevity. The deciding factor SHOULD be the whole package, not just whether this guy played for 20 years or not. Is he a player who did something spectacular or unique. In this case, is he a catcher? There are a lot of variables -- not for the writers, but for who actually belongs in the Hall or not there OUGHT to be. According to the writers these days, Jackie Robinson wouldn't have the numbers. Sometimes there are details that justify a player's induction that don't show up in stats.

Answer 5

3000 hits is usually a bench mark...so I'd say his chances are very good. The average is a little low, so there is a small chance he may not make it first ballot, but he'll probably get in. What are his defensive capabilities? They should have an impact as well.

After checking, there are only three guys with 3000 hits who aren't in the hall. Rose, Palmero, and Henderson. Rose is banned, Palmero and Henderson are not yet eligible. And even if he was, Palmero is probably not going in due to his fall from grace.

This guy will make it in despite the low batting average. There are lower averages in the hall right now. This guy, whoever he is, has plenty of very good numbers to get in the hall.

Answer 6

Was this an 15-year career, or a 25-year one?

I much prefer great seasons over career summary stats. This player had some skills, sure. But it looks to be a 20-year career, SLG of minimum .360 (be generous presuming doubles, call it .400), and unless the guy is a walkin' machine his OBP wouldn't be a great deal over .333. This is league-average at best. I could see voting for him but (a) would need a more complete career record to review and (b) it would have to have some compelling aspects (statistical or narrative) to it.

I don't really care about the numbers, but the numbers give me a qualitative idea of how this man played, and right now his only whiff of greatness is longevity.

Answer 7

Yeah, 3000 hits is a almost always a guaranteed HOFer, but I don't get how a player could get 3000 hits and only bat .265. I wouldn't vote for him, just because of the average.

Answer 8

Kirby Pucketts stats are hall of fame stats 2304 hits 414 doubles .318 career avg. in just 12 years

Answer 9

NO
needed a better Batting average

Answer 10

a obtainable NFL hall of Famer, even with the undeniable fact that it's going to take various tries and years if he ever does make it in. i'm uncertain if 4 professional Bowls, 80 rushing td's, and a pedestrian 4.one million yds in step with carry will do the job.