Under China's one child policy can children over that limit be denied Chinese citizenship?

Question

I was watching a youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHMUq5Oqyo0 about the most recent riot concerning the one child policy.

The video toward the end has Japanese newscasters talking about the penalties for violation the one child policy. I knew about the heavy fines that could be imposed but they also talked about (in subtitles) that extra children could be denied Chinese Citizenship.

Is this true or a case of bad reporting or just bad subtitles?


TIA

I was watching a youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghmuq5oqy... about the most recent riot concerning the one child policy.

The video toward the end has Japanese newscasters talking about the penalties for violation the one child policy. I knew about the heavy fines that could be imposed but they also talked about (in subtitles) that extra children could be denied Chinese Citizenship.

Is this true or a case of bad reporting or just bad subtitles?


Also please I live and work in China so I know about the normal horrors the women have to endure so please keep your answers to just the question asked.

TIA

Answer 1

This is part of the misinformation I dislike with the western style press. The reporter was making up stuff on the fly obviously. If that was the case, then what would be the citizenship of the Child? Where would the child be deported too? Just because a reporter says its true, does not make it true.

Forced Abortion:
Widely reported in the west, especially with anti abortionists and largely wrong. The one child rule will not be changed in China for obvious reasons but there are exceptions.

Farmers and those in rural area’s are allowed two or three, some religions are not under the law, and the one child rule is widely disregarded in cities were those that can afford to pay the fines have more then one.

I have students that have brothers and sisters. However, forced abortions could be construed as correct if a family (or woman) can’t afford another child, then she must get an abortion or face an expensive fine.

How much that is I don’t know nor do I know how that fine is administered as I have not met anyone who has affected, indirectly or otherwise.

As far as I can find out, it seems people understand the responsibility of keeping their families small, plus Beijing has recently started a campaign that ostracizes the rich who circumvent the law by paying the huge fee’s.

There are problems with the one child rule, such as gender selection.

According to the CIA book of world facts, the ratio at birth is 1.11 males to every female. Overall, it is 1.06 males. The USA it’s 1.05 males at birth and 0.967 males overall. Worldwide it is 1.07 males and 1.014 males overall. Beijing has taken notice and recently outlawed gender selection and limited the use of sonograms.

Chinese violence against women, abduction and trafficking in women, the press gives the impression this is state sanctioned while ignoring that China is dealing with these millennium long practices by making it illegal with stiff penalties. In some cases, even result in death.

Almost all of the horror stories you hear of China are not the result of state sanctioned practices, but rather its done regionally with corrupt officials. China central government does not have the strangle hold on the people that many assume. Where the changes really need to take place is regionally and Pres Hu is trying to do that through prosecution of corrupt officials. But factor in that China has been corrupt since the beginning of time, its going to take more then Pres Hu to bring it under control anytime in the near future.

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Signed an ex pat from the USA living in China for the last year

Peace

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Answer 2

Some are even removed from their mother wombs few weeks only before birth... Sometimes the mother don't survived too...
But in countryside regions this is less of a problems, as enforcement over there is difficult. Also, Chinese always work by impulsive crackdown... 1 or 2 months in the year where they will enforce it, and the rest of the year, they will just look somewhere else...

Edit: to answer your question more directly, maybe and surely they may remove the citizenship of second child, but if they remain in China, it will also mean, that they will not be protected at all... They could be enslaved and nobody could do nothing about it... This is what I think it will happen, I have lived there few years and know their thinking patern... My wife is also Chinese and she is the second child in her family, so not sure if they will apply this to adult chinese too, if yes, then she will be in deep trouble...

Answer 3

What makes you think they are even allowed to live!

Answer 4

Yes, it is true... if they are lucky.