A "counter petition" has been started to show support for the McCanns?

Question

I know there is some debate about the right and wrongs of how the children were left, but the existence of this petition must be very hurtful to the McCanns.

I think its vindictive and smacks more of 'class-hate' than a considered request for a sensible application of the judicial system.

I do not believe that any social services department should be influenced by petitions, no matter how well-intentioned.
I would like to support to the McCanns and to express my disgust at the original petition.
I don't agree that they should have left the children alone that night, however, i think they should be left alone to raise their other two children and search for their daughter.
I am not condoning their action but i will not support inciting hatred towards desperate people who are in need of our support.
A "counter petition" has been started to show support for the McCanns.

once you've 'signed' you will be sent to a page asking for a donation to the petition site. This is actually optional (but not presented as such). Just click any box (e.g. $2), then click "return to sellers page" on paypal and no transaction takes place. Your name still gets added.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mccann/index.html

erm,
Read my post carefully please.

Hallie,
Fair enough.

Middenraker,
You can hold both ideas in your head. They have done wrong and i don't agree with it, But i would not like a grieving family to have my wrath as well.
Can't you get that!

NSPCC do your job!
I explained that before.
This site is an official online petition site. The money they ask for is optional and for running their website. it is not for the person your petitioning for.

CT
What is your point?

Kerry,
We all support Madeleine. I have donated to her fund. What have you done?

NSPCC do your job!
What is your point?
You mean you are winning? There are no winners here.

another fragment of ur life,
You think that you would be in trouble, Does that mean they should be in trouble because you think you would!
That is like saying, I would have it bad so they should! does that make sense to you?

I donated, and you have signed a hate petition and i am stupid!
When you are in need you will find people like me helping you and people like would crucify you.

Liadan,
Typo
People like you crucify you

Steph,
She is a vendictive woman

Liadan,
So now you think it is in the twins best interest to be taken away. I don't think you are thinking of the twins best interest. I think you are seeking revenge. You want the parents to suffer more.
Lack of logic and lack of empathy!

Answer 1

Well I vehemently disagree with what they did and the way they are going about things right now, but as I have said before, yes, they need to be made accountable for their actions, but there is a time and a place and this is not it. I will not sign either petition; I don't agree with the one about social services, but I can't sign the one which shows support because I don't support them fully, just their efforts to find Madeleine, even though I think they're going about it in the wrong way.

Answer 2

Let's face some facts here:-

1. McCanns left their three babies alone every night to go out. They are not a single mother desperate to work and pay for expenses, they are middle class and able to pay for a child minder or take turns in going out.

2. They were offered and refused baby minding services EVERY night along with several other couples at the resort.

3. They all went to a bar which was over the other side of the resort behind the resort pool, which did not have any safety fences around it.

4. They left their door unlocked. A report somewhere says Madeliene had got up and wandered out on a previous night. Is this why she was put in a bed between the twins?

5. They said they checked the children every 30 minutes when bar staff say they didn't see them leave the table.

6.THEY ARE STILL GOING AROUND SAYING THEY THINK THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN LEAVING THE CHILDREN - AND THEY COULD SEE APARTMENT AND SO ITS FINE TO DO SO. IT'S NOT.

They should have a visit from social services to discuss whether they are still maintaining this view. It might just be a defence as they feel bad enough.

I do find it unsettling they maintain its ok to leave kids on the basis that they could potentially see the apartment from where they were. They did not have their eye on the apartment if they did they would have seen a pervert entering and leaving the apartment with their child.

I don't hate them but they are blatently wrong putting this about, sayng they are utterly blameless in the whole affair. It was a terrible decision which led to terrible consequences.

NO ONE deserves this to happen to them. I feel very sorry for them but it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be asked privately what their true views are.

Answer 3

If no action is taken more 'parents' will think it is ok to leave their children alone without any consequences! And this is not due to class hate - this is down to what people think is acceptable parenting.

They arent raising their other two children because they are swanning around the globe in a private jet that isnt big enough for Gerry 'What only a 22 seater' McCann. Maybe if the McCanns had shown slight remorse for their actions then people would be a bit easier on them, but I am pretty sure if it happened all over again they would act exactly the same thing. It is more than just a mistake to constantly leave your children unattended in an unlocked room, out of sight and ear shot, with a big swimming pool between you and your children.

They do not act like desperate people, they act like Madeliene is an afterthought to getting to have an extended holiday.

Would you be as supportive if the McCanns were a couple of chavs from a council estate? Or is child neglect ok when you are a doctor.

Answer 4

The fact that a decomposing body was put in a car 5 weeks later is pure speculation. The police have not made a formal statement about that or anything else. I do not like the spiteful posts that have been made about the McCanns but I'm not that keen on the blind denial shown by their supporters. The fact is that the results of the dna tests have resulted, after hours of questioning, that Kate McCann is now an arguido. That is fact. I neither like nor support the McCanns but, if they turn out to be involved, then justice for Madeleine will come at a very high cost for the twins, so I for one am not gloating.

Answer 5

Yes ..social services and the police should act on their own judgemnent and not be persuaded by any outside party for taking the correct course to prosecute the law...

The McCanns put their children at risk

Whether they are prosecuted maybe full of the class bias
that you perceive is only from the crtiical ones ...or else how do you suppose they got so much media attention in the first place..

if you really think that in the present bandwagon whitewash climate about this case that they would receive fair and impartial treatment regarding this case then think again....
its going to be very hard to prosecute when Gordon Brown has giving his full backing and support and help inwhatever way he can....the police really have to counter a tide to prosecute and they will also be thinking whats in the bigger interest...

in the end the may just prosecute we dont know

but this is required to bring them to account because throughout this whole debacle these people seem above the situation they are ina nd above their daughters disappearance and above any wrong doing

the people who sign their petition to show support are a) neglectful themselves and b) stupid and I supoose the McCanns will be having a laugh because they dont care what the media thinks of them let alone the internet and these petitions anyway..

Answer 6

Toietmoi - you've told us several times in different posts that you've donated to the fund, and it makes me curious... please tell me: What is it you think your donation will achieve in terms of finding Madeleine?
I don't mean to offend you by asking, it's just that I'm having trouble equating the fund with helping to find the child. If I saw hoardes of private investigators being employed in the first week or two, then I could understand, but for the website to continually display the ever-increasing balance, like it's some sort of achievement in itself, confuses me. So far, the only use for the money seems to be to fund the McCann's lifestyle in Portugal, but even that seems a bit pointless to me, as they're not actually doing any searching...
Please enlighten me!
Regarding your question - I would be much more inclined to be supportive of the McCanns if they had acknowledged their part in all this. It's their continual self-protection that angers me, and I can't tell you how it disappoints me to hear their justification for their behaviour - I think it speaks volumes about their mentality.
I still hope they find Madeleine, one way or another, with all my heart.

Answer 7

I pray for the family and for the little girl, but definitely the family needs to go through a parenting class or something just as they would if they were low income workers with three children who had been caught doing the same thing. I have no hate for them, just for the way the whole thing is being handled. Evidently there is some trouble getting away for the night and getting a babysitter and taking appropriate precautions for safety of their children.... Do you know I'd be arrested and my children all taken away if I left them in the unlocked apartment, walked down the stairs and twenty-five feet to my mailbox, gone for only thirty seconds? I'm not saying the parents should get "in trouble" but definitely they need HELP if they are in a higher position in society and still are doing these irresponsible things that have resulted, this time, in an unfortunate happening.

Answer 8

Awww, come on, this has nothing to do with 'class hate' this is what's right and wrong and the kids welfare. I am not signing this petition as I am opposed to the McCann's behaviour. No shocker....they're asking for a contribution whether it's to give freely or not....what about justice for innocent Madeliene?

Answer 9

sounds cool ,hay maybe we can all setup a donation page,and earn some extra money, i know i could do with one,problem is i have three kids to and most places only do deals for family's of four,i know i can leave one behind, that's OK as long as the door is unlocked, now to be serious I'm not anti MC cane, i won't wish what happened to them on anyone however i think it is totally stupid to say leave them alone to raise their other children(which they are not)and support them and donate , everyone is allowed their own opp ion and if they have never come across people before that have said anything that they don't like before then they must be perfect, you think they are wonderful people and that is your choice other people do not but everybody loves and prays for Maddy and that is what matters isn't it.

Answer 10

Trust the "Pro-McCann" petition to get money. Like I said, all this arguing is useless. Madeleine is missing, petitions and arguing and reporting and blocking won't bring her back. At least supporting her and wishing and praying for her won't upset us all.