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Fact: the educated makes more than the uneducated. Do liberals believe everyone should make the same? Where is the logic? If you want more money either get an education and work your way up. Or just collect welfare, it’s a choice.

2007-06-12 13:42:24 · 11 answers · asked by GREAT_AMERICAN 1 in Politics & Government Politics

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If everyone made the same pay that would be communism.

2007-06-12 13:47:57 · answer #1 · answered by Liberal City 6 · 4 2

I believe in a "living wage." An uneducated person should be able to work and earn enough to live on . . . meaning enough to have shelter, food and such.

That said, the wage in question is relative. Honestly, people can live on less, if need be. We made a choice, that our children would have a parent at home, this meant that we had to live without some creature comforts. With the help of family and hard work on my husbands part, we are doing okay . . . and our children are doing great.

If our goal was different, I could work outside the home, we could have newer vehicles, a fancier home, etc. But that would be at the expense of our children.

I have had part-time jobs throughout the years (for that special something or to assist us out of a negative) and the change in my children was apparent.

The gumption to do something and to work hard toward something is a must, educated or not.

I do NOT think wealth redistribution is fair to those who work hard for their money. The more the government steals from us, the less likely we are to work for more, as the more we make the less we get . . .

Makes me think of Mr. Brownstone (the drug being my money): when a little doesn't do it, a little gets more and more . . . (did I remember correctly?)

As for all those regurgitating the Party line about race, gender, lifestyle: the law that protects us all protects us EQUALLY, we all have recourse. Why would you want to make some groups more worthy in the eyes of the law than the rest of us? How is that fair?

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2007-06-13 16:41:11 · answer #2 · answered by Moneta_Lucina 4 · 0 0

Generalization not Fact. To be a Fact it is true ALL of the time, not just MOST of the time.

What do you consider educated? High School grad, Associates, Bachelors, Masters, PhD? Or, are you one of the rare ones who consider Apprenticeship & Trade School education?

Education is not the only influence on pay scale. Work Ethic, experience, and just being in the right line of work at the right time hold as much (or more) weight.

Perfect example: I have a relative who holds a PhD in Biology; my husband and father (neither have a traditional degree beyond a High School diploma) both have better incomes.

Don't try to tell me than anyone who wants an Education can get one; that's part of the American Dream LIE. There is a HUGE barrier to getting more education; it's called MONEY. College tuition has done nothing but increase, while assistance money has been declining.

I don't want to have the same paycheck as a doctor, but DO want the same pay as someone doing the EXACT same job as I do. Don't pay someone more than me just because of gender, race, nationality, education, or because you like them more than me.

By the way, education doesn't make you intelligent; it just makes you more learned.

"To repeat what others have said, requires education; to challenge it, requires brains." ~Mary Pettibone Poole, A Glass Eye at a Keyhole, 1938

2007-06-13 10:22:08 · answer #3 · answered by beth 4 · 0 1

Liberals don't believe everyone should make the same.

They believe in a living wage. That means that if you are a full time worker, your pay should be at least enough to live on. Liberals will sound the alarm when the gap between rich and poor continues to grow. This is not a call to redistribute wealth this, this is an indication that our economy and society is out of whack. If the middle class shrinks and disappears, and we have only rich and poor, then this country is in big trouble. The middle class is maintained by fair wages, fair educational opportunities, and pressure on industry to keep jobs in the US. A few far left liberals might want to limit executive compensation (especially when it is 1000 times higher than the average worker's wage) but that is the job of directors and stockholders.

Liberals want everyone to have the same opportunities and consideration in employment, housing and places of accommodation.

Liberals believe that helping people in times of need, so that they can return to the work force and be self sufficient again is a moral imperative over letting children starve, and the sick and disabled go without basic human dignity

2007-06-12 21:30:27 · answer #4 · answered by jehen 7 · 4 1

Yeah right. You mean like Bush did. He was a C student, had more than one run in with his instructors, was a big party man and while in college, drank his share of the happy stuff. He already had a silver spoon in his mouth. Is this the example you refer to?? Ok, I am not a college grad but I make more in one year as a company super on construction than most people with a 4, maybe a 6 year degree. Why, because I am a go getter. Education is just one small thing that will help you in life. If you ain't got the get up and go, your gonna be left out.

2007-06-12 20:49:44 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

Please point to any liberal material that calls for all to earn the same.

Why are cons so incapable of actually understanding what the left stands for and debating that instead of inventing these crazy lies.

Arguments about income inequality are about the degree of inequality - not that there shouldn't be any.

The US has the most inequitable distribution of income in the developed world. It also has the highest poverty rates, the biggest inequality in access to education, the worst health statistics and amongst the worst crime levels.

But as long as you can rationalise this by blaming the poor for being poor and the unfortunate for being unfortunate (is the mentally ill and disabled's fault that they are mentally ill or disabled?) then obviously you don't have to care. Those of us with an ounce of compassion see it as a concern.

2007-06-12 21:01:18 · answer #6 · answered by Sageandscholar 7 · 3 2

I dont think its a dilema. I think (for the most of us) we have to work harder then the next guy to get what we want. I can from nothing but I didnt let that be an excuse. I worked hard and was detirmened to get out of the lifestyle I grew up in. You cant blame your income on someone eles. if you have a problem with what you make or do for a living W.O.R.K. for it and quite trying to blame everyone eles for your poor choices in life.

Your parents control you and your lifestyle untill your 18. after that...man up and work harder than the next guy.

2007-06-12 20:51:14 · answer #7 · answered by alot of nadda 2 · 2 1

No, starting out, everyone has the chance to get an education if that's what they really want. There is no logic in re-distribution of the wealth.

2007-06-12 21:05:13 · answer #8 · answered by JudiBug 5 · 1 3

Its not a choice, its a dilemma.
In the battle of guns versus butter in the United States , guns are winning by a crushing margin. As the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina clearly demonstrated, the militarization of America has severely weakened the capacity and the will of the federal government to provide for the general welfare of its citizens. Despite being the wealthiest nation in history, 13% of our citizens live below the poverty level and the US is the only industrialized nation which does not provide health care to 100% of its citizens. There is no excuse for the existence of poverty in a nation with such vast resources. The aristocrats build their fortunes on the backs of the poor and working class, and the incestuous relationship between the federal government and the corporate vehicles of the wealthy is one of their primary means of maintaining the gross disparity of wealth which exists in the United States.

In 1935, Sinclair Lewis published It Can't Happen Here, his depiction of a "democratically elected" US president imposing a tyranny on Americans. In 2007, life is imitating art. However, there are those of us who are willing to sacrifice and endure whatever is necessary for the cause of a more humane and just government and society. I will stay in the United States to work for something better. I will continue to teach my children to struggle for social causes. And yes, I will persist in my writing and other forms of dissent against the tyranny of the aristocracy, regardless of the consequences.

2007-06-12 20:44:59 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 4

Please, pretty please, direct me to the article or person who EVER, EVER said "everyone should make the same."

Please.


What *I* expect is FAIR AND LIVABLE WAGES for a person going in every day and doing their damn job. Instead of the CEOs getting paid multi-million dollar salaries for KEEPING LABOR COSTS DOWN.

Er....you DID know that, right? That a CEO or even the manager at Pizza Hut gets BONUSES FOR CUTTING THE LABOR COSTS TO THE BONE.


You think that's fair?

2007-06-13 07:42:09 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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