If so then why?
If not so then why?
How does a system come into existance without having a system before it?
Is this just crazy talk?
2007-06-12 13:06:35 · 8 answers · asked by magpiesmn 6 in Arts & Humanities ➔ Philosophy
If every person is living in a system isnt it also true that we are all connected in that system in the respect that we are all part of it. Is there any excape for the living from the system?
2007-06-12 13:14:22 · update #1
How can you be in a system without being part of it? I dont really understand the logic thats used here could you please explain it? If you ment we can be against what the system stands for then I'd agree with you but thats still being in the system and a part of it imo.
2007-06-12 13:27:47 · update #2
How complicated does a system need to be inorder to build all the systems under it? Does the main system start complicated or simple compaired to the subsystems?
2007-06-12 13:30:36 · update #3
iamnothing.... If we are nothing that can be known then how do we have knowledge of anything???
2007-06-12 13:41:20 · update #4
Well zen master if you have removed judgment from your mind then you are truely my master. But somehow I dont believe you have although you may be doing your best to and thats a worthy goal. Do you suppose you should start not disliking before you start not liking something? OR can you do both at the same time?
2007-06-12 13:48:47 · update #5
True enoth I do not like the current extablishment percieved to be in power right now. But as the wise man once said when all is said and done, I wont be.
2007-06-12 13:52:57 · update #6
what is to accept?
what is to not accept?
that is how it is isnt it ??
" Every thing is
true just as it is:
Why dislike it?
Why hate it? "
Zen saying
2007-06-12 13:41:35 · answer #1 · answered by zentoccino 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
A system is defined as a process of defined processes and the components therein. Are we a part of a system? Yes. Do we help define the system through our portion of the process? Yes. I accept that I am a part of a defined process, in which my actions and thoughts help to define that process.
A system could not exist without someone, or some entity, being aware that a system could exist. Consequently, the belief in a God, or Creator, that was always there (a tough concept), would be a base for belief in an eternal system, always having been, and always being.
2007-06-16 19:31:32 · answer #2 · answered by kmsmncs 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No. It is not crazy. The system you speak of is a system of deceptions created by our two incorrect perspectives, materialism and spiritualism.
Truthfully speaking western culture is facing today a huge problem of what to do about all the illusion and the system they have created. We just are completely unaware of the nature of the problem and accept this false reality as the only reality. You perceived another system correctly.
As far as I know I am just about the only person who has fully articulated the exact nature of the problem. Most people don't accept what I have to say because they have been living an existence which is intellectually dead. They fear my observations because their security is dependent upon the status quo or a system that does not genuinely answer to our needs. Mainly it just tells us it answers our needs but an alive intellect is bored to tears with the tedium of meaningless answers.
2007-06-12 22:10:40 · answer #3 · answered by Wizard 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If by system you mean a connected working mechanism then no. It only appears that way. We are nothing that can be known. The 'system' you may be referring to could be the apparent universe as observed by the senses from the separate subjective entity we have imagined called 'me'. Destroy the idea of this entity and the idea of a 'system' dies. Nothing is systemic. Only random, unrelated occurrences who's beginning and end are simultaneous. Nothing is what 'you' are and come from. Not a system within a system.
2007-06-12 20:34:37 · answer #4 · answered by @@@@@@@@ 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
We can move from one system to the next but the new system is still just a part of the original system we tried to run from to begin with. there is one main system... where or what it is I don't know but then the other subsystems just keep running and running...
like holding a irror in a mirror.
2007-06-12 20:25:28 · answer #5 · answered by mommymanic 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
That's probably so, but individually, we can be and act quite independently from the mainstream system. We can be IN it without being PART of it.
I think most of us would like to think that.
2007-06-12 20:24:23 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Everyone is living in a system. The Earth and all life on it could be seen as a system.
2007-06-12 20:10:18 · answer #7 · answered by Your Best Fiend 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Gestalt psychology also discusses interdependent systems as does 'systems thinking'. We tend to be reductionist in our perspectives of the world.
2007-06-12 21:20:58 · answer #8 · answered by guru 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋