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If yes, could you go into detail as to what happened (type of competition, etc.)?

What was your feeling after you won? What was his feeling after he lost?

2007-06-12 12:02:11 · 16 answers · asked by LycraSpandex 2 in Social Science Gender Studies

I have never lost to a woman, and honestly don't think a woman can ever defeat me athletically or intellectually. I just don't think I could deal with the embarrassment.

2007-06-12 12:02:24 · update #1

16 answers

he cried!

2007-06-16 02:47:13 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I feel sorry to hear you have problems with being 'defeated' by a woman.

I have 'defeated' men before in both athletic 'competition' and intellectual. Often, I don't even notice I'm competing until I see some odd reaction in the guys face. Here I thought I was having some fun while it was dead serious. *confused*

I'm 1.78 and athletically built. Let's just say there's not much difference in muscle mass with a guy the same length. Without my posture and tallness, there's no way I could have done that. I've "defeated" guys in wrestling, arm wrestling, rugby, archery and spear throwing. Oddly enough, men are very good sports if you defeat them IN sports, than they are when it comes to intellectual 'defeat'. Any gal in here ever noticed that difference?

In my line of work, when I meet a new guy and we find out we are interested in doing the same thing it often occurs that the guy says 'oh I do a little bit with it too'. I get all enthousiastic because I like the same subject and start chatting about it. All of a sudden I see this guys face cramp up, almost asif he has seen a ghost. It isn't even in my intention to impress the guy, as I feel no need to. Here I thought I was making a new friend, instead I just turned the guy against me. They have this dazed, glazy, confused look on their face and generally after that have trouble being relaxed.

Many have been 'defeated' in the art of debate. But I wouldn't say that this is because I'd consider myself smarter. It's because I choose my issues carefully, calculate every reponse, etc. When your communication is very rational and logical, you generally have the upper hand. It appears I'm even more rational and logical than the average man. Though, truth be said, these are attributes usually said to be a man's. Their absolute weak point (and a difference from myself), is that it's harder to use logic and rationality for the goal of expressing their feelings. They get stuck that way, for business it's usually ok. That will result in 'the pouty face' quite literally. Some however, do have the self confidence to tell me 'omg you're right, i never saw it that way'. This is the type of man that earns my respect if the debate becomes 'my victory'.

I'm a little averse about competing, because, I too see that I will damage my relations with men more than I would want at times. Maybe they won't directly express it like you do, or they won't even believe it that they have a problem losing to a woman. In general though, it would make my life a lot easier if men wouldn't see some things as 'competition'. Don't think that, you need to be all-round dominant for a woman to be a real man.

2007-06-13 00:30:04 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Has it been that long that people have already forgotten Billy Jean King?

Yes I have many times. I used to play pool for money and the majority of the people i defeated were men, it kind of gave me an edge as a woman, because the guys didn't see it coming from me, so they would put up lots of money underestimating me, and I would win. They almost always got pissed, I actually had one guy try to pull a knife on me outside of the pool hall one night cause he bet $1500 he couldn't afford to lose. Luckily i was smart enough to have a very dear very BIG surrogate big brother who was always with me and acted as a bodyguard so to speak, so i never got hurt by anyone who was upset by losing, (coincidentally neither did he, these guys took one look at him and would walk away) My philosophy always was (and still is though I've since hung up my cue) Don't bet what you can't afford to lose.

My feeling was great, I absolutely loved proving my ability over and over again no matter how much I was out numbered, and underestimated.

PS also in my fourth semester of college and have maintained a 4.0 throughout, and have won many academic competitions, where some of the competitors were males

2007-06-12 14:44:17 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

I've been defeated by women in both. It doesn't happen too often, but it doesn't happen often with men either.

In kenpo, the Sensei (a female) was faster, more powerful, more knowledgable about technique, and more skilled at using her techniques than me, even though I was physically stronger (misconception that strength = power. The force a fist hits with is determined by mass X velocity X velocity; and the way you throw a punch, and the strength you bring from the abdomen, is more important than arm strength). None of the other women in the class matched me but I had a female friend (who trained in tang soo do) who would consistently end up drawing with me when we fought.

Intellectually? Well I'm about a 26th kyu at go. I had my *** more or less handed to me by two different women stronger in the game a few weeks ago--one was about a 15th kyu.

Someone doesn't have to be smarter than you to outsmart you on occasion, or beat you in an intellectual contest that requires a skill or knowledge they outstrip you in. And guess what? No matter how smart you are, there are women, and men, who are smarter.

2007-06-12 16:32:32 · answer #4 · answered by Shaun 3 · 3 0

Recently, I beat a boy at Counter-Strike, and I beat another boy at chess.

Counter-Strike: Long story short, it was a knife or sniper competition. You could only have a Scout or your knife. One round, deathmatch basically. There's 32 people on the server. Over the course of an hour and a half it comes down to me, and him. He's using a Scout, I'm using a knife. Through mostly blind luck I end up behind him, sneak up and stab him to death. He turned around and got one shot over my shoulder, and one on my arm. I was hurt pretty bad, but I had the advantage of time, and I won.

He screamed some obscenities at me, made some rather homophobic remarks, said I "probably have a dick in real life" and logged off. I think I just got a whiner, though, since the other guys I defeated were pretty good-natured about it.

Chess was a pretty close call, basically I just got a sneaky move in with my bishop that got me his rook, and I got checkmate. I beat him in front of his friends so he was more than a little embarassed and just said, "Yeah, whatever, lucky shot," but then afterwards caught up with me, shook my hand and said, "Good game."

2007-06-12 13:47:23 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Athletically? Not really, although I played on a co-ed hockey team as a teenager. (Yes, ice hockey, and no, I was not the goalie. I played left wing (offense) )

Intellectually? Sure, all the time. I'm a member of Mensa. I used to be on my school's debate team and scholastic bowl team. And I love to play various logic puzzles with my husband. He holds his own just fine - we always joke that, between the two of us, we could make a killing on Jeopardy, since we seem to have different spheres of knowledge. My husband is proud that I'm smart, but like I said, he's really smart, too. The guys in Mensa usually aren't so insecure as to base their whole personalities on being "the smartest guy around", so it works out OK. The high-school crowd in debate and scholastic bowl generally seemed OK with it, too. Actually, it was only the occasional father of one of the male scholastic bowl members who seemed wierded out. The guys were all close friends, so they didn't really care. They won some, I won some, no big deal.

2007-06-12 12:13:08 · answer #6 · answered by Junie 6 · 1 0

Yes, in both cases.

In middles school, the girls team played our school's boys team in a scrimage. We gave them a good whalloping.

In high school, I beat several of the boys on the swim team in a free-style race (I was a state champion)

Intellectually I won a spelling bee, a geography bee and, later in college, I beat out several men for an awesome summer opportunity assisting with research in the mountains. I also scored very high in teh MCAT's and got better offers than many of may male collegues.

How did I feel? I feel proud of my achievements, I have worked hard and it is beginning to pay off. Everything I do, academically and physically, I put my all into it.

How did he feel? I don't really care. I was a valedictorian in high school and college. I went to national bees, science fairs and athletic competitions. And, to cliche that crappy movie, if you are going to compete against me intellectually or athletically, you had better bring it. Ohh, his poor wittle bittle ego was bru-sed? Ohh, too bad.

My opinion on men who can't handle losing to a woman is that they are small and too pathetic for words.

2007-06-12 13:11:57 · answer #7 · answered by joanby 3 · 3 0

This is George's sister

I play in a large soccer league (300+ in city) that is all boys with the exception of about 14 girls. We tryout and are placed in a division according to that.The tryouts are completely based on individual skill. I am in division 1 (best), which only has about 20 kids in the city. Meaning I beat a lot of guys. It felt good not because I was beating guys but because I was at the top. ANd none of the guys (that I care about) cared either. ANd before you say that our team must suck, we just won the league finals.

I have beaten guys in otherwise athletically plenty of times too.

And intellectually I have the highest GPA in the school, 2nd best in school history. And it feels damn good. And many resent me--- but not because I'm a girl. And my school is of 900. Oh and I'm best in the city. Lets make that out of about 10,000.

Yeah I can out smart most, and am much better at athletics than most- girls and boys alike.

2007-06-12 13:37:42 · answer #8 · answered by George T 2 · 3 1

Of course. I rarely lose an intellectual competition. I was our high school's Quiz Bowl champ - I won on a physics question

I am a National Merit Scholar and am completing my Ph.D.

My husband is working on a Ph.D. in astrophysics, but I routinely whip his butt at Trivial Pursuit or word puzzles (to be fair, he routinely whips my butt at chess. He's the one who taught me to play.)

This seems like a silly question. What does it have to do with gender? I'm not an athletic person (although I'm strong and fit), so I don't tend to compete athletically. I am an intellectual person, and I compete quite well intellectually.

It doesn't mean that I NEVER lose, of course. There's always someone better out there. However, I'll be dammed if I'm going to be beat by someone who thinks his brains come from his Y chromosome or his penis.

2007-06-12 12:27:38 · answer #9 · answered by stormsinger1 5 · 6 2

I've done both; I regularly beat males in intellectual competitions and I used to be exceptionally good at table tennis, beating pretty much everyone I played against.

2007-06-12 23:26:26 · answer #10 · answered by Devolution 5 · 0 0

Not in a competition setting, but indirectly I have.

In high school I set the record for the mile run, I broke the men's and women's record.

I am a chemistry tutor and most of the students I work with are males.

Why would you be so embarrased to lose to a female? Are you so insecure that you have to regard the opposite sex as inferior in order to feel good about yourself? That sucks..sorry 'bout your luck!

2007-06-12 12:39:00 · answer #11 · answered by GoldenGirl 3 · 3 2

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