Why do liberals pick and choose their polls to govern by?

Question

I see liberals constantly citing polls that show around 65% or higher of Americans do not think the Iraq War was worth the cost. Liberals take this as a sign that Americans want out. Yet, they fair to disclose that these same polls show that only around 15% of Americans want the US to leave Iraq immediately, and the US is pretty split on whether setting a timetable for withdrawal is a good idea. Why would liberals not disclose parts of polls like that? When they constantly say that Bush is a liar, what example are they setting? Am I the only person that does not enjoy being lied to and manipulated by the liberal media?

toffeefan, if you are talking about policy perspectives, then no, i'm not a realist. i dont care much for realism at all. i'm a liberal when it comes to policy. i am not opposed to nation building and i'm fine with globalization. i believe realism is more of paleoconservativism, such as Pat Robertson. I'm a neocon, very different

Answer 1

Why do conservatives believe everything Faux News tells them to believe?

"Liberal media". LMAO!!!! The media in this country is controlled by the right. "Liberal Media" is something they made up, and a few prominent Republicans have admitted to that.

Bush is constantly a liar. That is a fact.

Answer 2

I lean liberal. I am not lying to you and I do not quote polls to make my points. I am also a realist. You do not sound like one to me. A realist knows that both parties (philosophies) are feeding us the rhetoric they want us to foccus on, as you are doing.

I do not feel the Iraq war was worth the cost (it is the future cost I am considering. The deaths today and tomorrow). I cannot support a war that was begun with a US invasion for reasons that did not exist. This comes from no poll. Even the President has acknowledged this. Of course now the reason we went in has changed. It will continue to do so. One poll I do mention is the poll (vote) taken by the Iraqui parliment when they voted overwhelmingly to ask the US to end the occupation (their words). Haven't seen much about that in the US have you? Europe is covering it but not our press. I sure haven't heard much about it from our government.

I am not biassed here. I have not seen any realistic activity from either side to get out of this war and move our resources to where they should have been in the first place. Afghanistan. Remember them? The folks who gave shelter to those who attacked us? We have dropped the ball there and now the Taliban is regaining their power and their popularity.

Lets forget the Democrat vs Republican nonsense. Let's stop letting those in office (on both sides) fool us into buying their uselsess rhetoric and placing party above nation. Let's start using common sense and making those people follow us for a change.

Matt: I am referring to the actual literal definition of reality. As in acknowledging the reality that we, you and I are being used by the leaders of the parties and or movements we espouse. Cases in point: Republican leadership has been desperate to rationalize our presence in this war while attempting to lose the fact that we began it on a false pretense. Democrat leadership just won a majority in the election on the pretense that they were opposed to the war and would work to end our involvement. Neither side is pushing this matter to the hilt to end our involvement. As long as we are busy play liberal vs conservative we leave these people free to pursue their own agendas.

Answer 3

Please.

Because opposing the Iraq war and wanting to leave immediately are two entirely separate issues. If someone is making a point about opposition to the war, the question of whether or not to leave immediately is not necessarily relevant to what they're talking about.

Usually people who are talking about opposition to the war are discussing Bush's incompetence, which has nothing to do with pulling out of Iraq tomorrow.

That's why. Okay?

Answer 4

you have already been lied to by your own media-

please search google for the actual list of media corporations that are "liberal owned" -

the truth on the ground will affect your life sooner or later- while you are in denial of it- you getting screwed by the belief system you are engaged in.

in 1996 Clinton signed a bill to deregulate the media, he got screwed, we all got screwed.

large SAUDI interests captured the lions share - and who's tucked tightly in bed with Bush more than the Saudies?
no one

you mean Rupert Murdock (FOX) is liberal?
you mean Disney is "liberal"? are you kidding?

if you had REAL liberal media- TV would sound like Air America on a majority of channels - there (sorry) isn't even one single Air America liberal view point host on 900 cable channels including the big networks ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, WARNER, besides CNN which is still afraid to cover "Air America topics and has hard righties like Nancy Grace-

so what are you talking about - ?

you types keep using that canard "liberal media" as though your being controled by it?

Rush Limbaugh is on over 600 stations -
where you can't even get one single liberal radio station but you can hear Rush on 3 or 4 stations

fair and balanced?

you think Rush is a liberal?

poor, poor righties have total control and just want to finish off the itsy bitsy remainder - but like the "evil doers" you will only serve to "steel" the will of those you oppose -

thanks for reading

have a great disillusionment

Answer 5

How about you repubs answer the poll numbers and stop trying to hide the facts behind dribble. How about coming up with a solution instead of disputing numbers that 99% of americans know are fact. That iraq was a waste of money. That we should have stayed in Afghanistan and finished the true hunt for the terrorists behind 9/11. That we should turn that mountain range between pakistan and afghanistan into a pile of pebbles. That we should stop policing a civil war that has been going on for thousands of years.

Answer 6

Both liberals and conservatives tailor information to be supportive of their cause. A chart showing the change of climate over 1 million year can be used both to support or negate the existence of Global Warming, just by altering minor scales of measurement. It's politics.

Answer 7

For the same reason that all politicians (or most others, BTW) do that...they have an agenda and wish to have "numbers" to support their views.
Today (12 Jun 2007), I heard that Harry Reid's satisfaction poll numbers were less than 19%..lowest on record for any politician...o well.

Anyway, always remember there are 3 categories of politics:

1. Lies
2. D@mn Lies
3. Statistics

Answer 8

in the beginning we don't vote for the President... and the yank people did no longer vote Bush in for his first term.... the familiar vote replaced into for Gore.. the Electoral votes voted Bush in.... so we in no way elected him.... 2nd it is not that he desires to manage by the polls even regardless of the undeniable fact that he does must be controlled... we did p.c. people interior the place of work to attempt and save in decrease than administration which curiously isn't working.. there are exams and balances in our government and that's what the yank people try to be sure happens.. Bush has back and back mentioned that he does not prefer Congresses popularity of various countless issues and that's no longer the way it somewhat works interior the USA of a... it somewhat is no longer in straightforward terms the polls that disagree with him, it somewhat is the final public of Congress additionally. The President works for the people no longer any different way around

Answer 9

Maybe those liberals don't want to leave Iraq immediately, or are torn about setting a timetable. I was against going in, but we have dug so deep a hole there that leaving would result in so much retaliation to the Sunnis that the trouble could spread to Saudi Arabia or another Sunni country who would sympathize with their plight. I don't think we can withdraw immediately. Maybe a timetable could work, but who knows.
The only fact that is undeniable is that we really really messed up.

Answer 10

What polls are you citing? What were the questions asked? You are doing the exact thing that you are accusing liberals of. You are quoting poll results with no backup and no context except that you want to discredit liberals.

Also, if you don’t like the poll statistics selected, present your own non-selective ones that support your position. The example you used is hardly compelling.