What Does Conservative Support For A Pardon For Libby Say About Their Supposed Support For "Rule Of Law"?

Question

Scooter was framed right?

LOL @ kim speaking about rule of law after her proudly breaking of it.

Do a google on the words "scooter libby" and pardon -- 500,000 hits - give me a SMALL break

Answer 1

People who defend Scooter Libby are nuts.
See above

Its says "The Republican Party is one of double standards".
Like we need to be told that.

Answer 2

It says that conservatives support the rule of law. The real question is why did the prosecutor entrap Libby once he knew that Richard Armitage was the actual leaker - not Libby? Why didn't the prosecutor drop the case against Libby? This case is more about prosecutorial abuse than Libby not tellling the truth.Liberals didn't have a problem with Clinton lying under oath (remember "move on") and they sure didn't have a problem with the very questionable pardons he doled out at the 11th hour. The bottom line is that Washington D.C. has become a cess pool where rule of law has become an oxymoron.

Answer 3

When a president issues a pardon, is he not acting lawfully?

I am a conservative but am not convinced a pardon is something the president ought to grant (and, to my knowledge, no one, conservative or liberal, has yet made a formal request for it).

Libby was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice, both of which are serious charges, and I do not think too many people are upset by his conviction. What is upsetting to some is the 30-month sentence Libby received.

In this finger-pointing political arena we live in, many people are raising a question about Equal Justice Under the Law. They note that former president Bill Clinton perjured himself in the Monica Lewinsky matter and no one seriously suggested he be sent to jail for it. I believe Clinton did perjure himself, but did we really want to tear the country apart over something that virtually every husband would lie about? I don't.

But then the issue of Sandy Bergr comes up. He was President Clinton's National Security adviser. He was convicted of removing highly sensitive documents from the National Archives and destroying some of them. In his defense statements, he lied, but I don't know if he was under oath st the time(s). He got a plea deal that included community service, a $50,000 fine and probation.

IMO, Berger's actions were at least as unlawful and potentially damaging as Libby's, but Libby has been sentenced to jail time and a $250,000 fine. As I'm sure you know, he was not convicted of outing Valerie Plame.

I was not a party to either man's legal proceedings, so I don't know all the facts. The jury did know all, or almost all of them. However, IMO, Libby's sentence was MUCH too severe, particularly in comparison to Berger's.

Answer 4

The United States Constitution, article 2 section 2, states: (the president) shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States.

That IS the rule of law.

Answer 5

No. Scooter wasn't framed. He was persecuted--there was no reason to prosecute. Two weeks into the CIA leak "investigation" when it was discovered Armitage was the 'leak' that the desk jockey worked for the CIA.......which everyone in Washington knew about anyway...they should've dropped the case.

But apparently, not remembering exact minute details of every conversation (Libby did not willfully mislead anyone) is a crime. If I beleived he comitted perjury--I'd be happy to see him sentenced to a couple of months like everyone else. But 30 months? It's not like he had sex with an intern and 'forgot' about it..........or he stole original documents from the national archives and lied about that! BTW, what did those guys get for their crimes?

Answer 6

Scooter should be in prison but conservatives in general do not believe in any sort of accountability. They must have learned the art of denial from Dennis Rodman. Politics does certainly make strange bedfellows

Answer 7

Well I would say it says a lot,

Why would I say this? Because our law allows the President to pardon someone if he wants to. That is the law, like it or not

Answer 8

I'd ask the impeached President Clinton about pardons. He's the expert.

Answer 9

It sounds to me like the "Rule of Law" is a farce with the republicans, as is most other things they say. Same with the democrats. These people only want to help themselves and their kind and forget the rest of us. I say we start shooting congressmen and women until one of the actually does what his/her constiuency wants them to do, without all the pork and bullshit lies and excuses as to why they did otherwise.

Answer 10

Well possible yes but I really don't know much about the case I have heard very little there is som much more about other unimportant stuff. Why do Liberals support a freee Paris Hilton request? What ever happened to John Edwards getting in trouble for paying for a few hundred dollar haircut with his campaigne money, haven't heard of that since it happened.