Why do greeks not like FYROM?

Question

Is it simply because they stole the name or are there other reasons.
Just seems like a childish vedetta to have against a country.
But then stealing a name could also be considered childish!

Answer 1

Hello dear!
Thank you for the question and the time to understand the politics in the Hellenic Peninsula, now called by the Turkish name Balkans! It is hard to understand the politics, since it is a part of the Middle Easter Question, which has started before even the Slavs came here! The Crusades wanted and succeeded to dismantle the Roman Empire, by destroying the Hellenic Peninsula. This happen, after the "Romans" had killed millions of inhabitants just because they were Greek!
Then, they brought in the Slavs! They took the lands and properties of the Greeks and passed them to feoudarchs who subsequently left or claim they became "indigenous"!
Among the lees powerful and poorest were the ones living in the middle of the Hellenic Peninsula. They never had country neither identity!
Since everyone was against them, the Greeks and Greece was the only supporting them during their initial years, when thousands would had dye if there was no assistance from them!
Greece, since they have suffered a lot, they understand the pain and problems of those people and continuously assist them on all levels!
Again thank you for your interest in our region!
Mainly people are coming to steal, or to kill here! You are a nice person!
The only sin is to abstain education and you are not a sinner!

Answer 2

I am Greek and I can say that I like Fyrom.
I have nothing against them.
I also had a friend in Fyrom that I met in Chalkidiki in Macedonia (the authentic,Greek Macedonia) many years ago when I was there for holidays with my parents.
But,their politicians (Tito made the beggining) have created a fake way to remind us the history in our location and those people who are thirsty for a glorious past (they are thirsty because their ethnic identity is a little bit confused) as you can understand, believe that it is true.They have nothing else to make them feel united.Of course there are some people there that know the truth.My Fyromian friend ,for example,knows about her Bulgarian identity(her name is totally Bulgarian) and she has not a problem about it.She accepts that fact and she is proud of being Bulgarian.
I can not understand why they want so desperately to persuade the world that they are descedants of Alexander the Great!
So,you can understand that the Greeks from the other side,that their grandparents have died for Mavedonia in previous wars how they feel when someone wants to take all that from them.
If all that thing have never happened and their name was something else Greece would help a lot that country.It could be good for both of us.Don't forget that it is also an Orthodox country as Greece.

Let's hope that it is going to be a good solution but I am not so optimistic about this matter!And the reason is that Fyromians NEED to feel that they have glorious ancestors like Alexander the Great.Even if they know that it is a lie...

Answer 3

Hello,
I am a greek, high scholl teacher of Greek Language and History.
I agree with you, it is childish, qwarelling instead of looking at the future -that doesn't wait for us- instead of trying to improve our lives and our countries, won't help us become BETTER!
To be honest, I don't know anyone that despices FYROM, and I am from Kilkis!

I think that greeks have grown up.
Our HISTORY is the most important thing that we, greeks, have, it is WHAT WE ARE!
But it is not the ONLY thing that we have!
I've been to other countries, but this sence of FREEDOM, this sence of DEMOCRACY, is something that I have found nowhere.
Yes, stealing a name may hide war intentions (that is what Greece claims), but we are here, now, and are working for these modern Greece, that is changing every day, with beautiful minds, with well educated people (decause greeks are much better educated than other european folks).
So, people that aren't willing to make changes, or simply poor educated or poor people, want this "remedy" of hate to feel important, to fill their lives.

Answer 4

Fyrom is not only stealing a name, but it is trying to usurp Greek history, symbols, and to claim Greek territories of the real Macedonia, which is northern Greece. Look at ovcichka's answer and you will realize, if you know the true history, how the lies these people tell can make Greek people mad.

Answer 5

Oh well,
First it was just the name. Then, FYROM also claimed that Alexander the Great (who was born in Macedonia in Greece ans was speaking Greek) was also from FYROM... That was childish if not stupid and irritated many Greeks. Indeed Macedonia was larger and encompassed the area of FYROM as well as the majority of the known world as an empire back then.

But the Slavs that now live in this area (mostly Albanians, Serbs and Gypsies) have nothing to do with the history or culture of Macedonia in ancient Greece. They are there only the last 1000 years.

That's all and the fact that they try to re-discover their own identity...

Apart from this, Greece is the larger investor in FYROM...

Cheers!

Answer 6

Abraham Lincoln was Greek, and NYC is part of Greece!!
If Americans react on this statement, can I say that they behave childsh??

People from FYROM claim that they are Macedonians and Alexander the Great was not Greek.

I won't say if Macedonia is Greek or not. Not even if Alexander the Great was Greek. I will simple ask you one thing:
Can you explain me how it is possible a country with a language less than 1000 years to have as a part of its history a man (Alexander the Great) who lived about 2000 years ago??

P.S.: Even their language (slavic) created by Greeks!!

"Saint Methodius (Greek: Μεθόδιος; Church Slavonic Мефодии) (b. Thessaloniki, Byzantine Empire, 826; d. in Great Moravia, April 6, 885) was a Byzantine Greek scholar, archbishop of Great Moravia, and the main translator of the Bible into Old Church Slavonic using the Glagolitic alphabet created by his brother and collaborator Saint Cyril. Since 1980 the two brothers are the patron saints of Europe"
(source: Wikpedia)

if you want to see more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glagolitic_alphabet

Answer 7

I don't think they hate FYROM, they just don't want any foreign country to bear the same name as a part of Greece. That's why FYROM still has this official name - Former Yugoslav Republic of Yugoslavia, because Greece just won't let them take the name Macedonia. They want to FYROM has at least something different in their name, so it can be clear if you're talking about a part of Greece or FYROM. Besides, Greeks believe that they have more right to name Macedonia ( and I agree with that because of historical facts ) than FYROM does. And name is also a property to a certain extent, so no wonder Greeks are stubborn about it.

Answer 8

of course its not a childish vendetta my dear!!
Fyrom wants to use Greek history to achieve their commercial and political goals!!
but that's totally wrong!!
and one other thing: Greek ppl don't hate fyrom ppl
its all bout politics
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Answer 9

If you were Greek you would understand.
It is not childish to be mad ata country because they stole a name.It is not the name which counts it is the history in that name.

Answer 10

Simple... I will put you in our frame of mind and leave it up to you to determine if your actions would appear childish.

.. imagine you have a dude that from morning till night is with you and goes to the washroom with you, and goes on dates with you and never leaves your sight... he dresses like you and claims that you don't exist and that he is the real you.. and tries to convince everyone you meet that you dont exist and that he is the real you...

Annoying right, if this was done long enough you may even detest this person...

Well you see this is what is happeneing with these guys from F.Y.R.O.M. , and your question is proof that this happens often enough to get anoying..

we have two choices.. ignore them or set the record straight... if we ignore the person will still follow us around.. and never stop in fact gain strenght and confidence that you are not trying to stop him....

.. so we do what we can to set the record straight, you see we do not hate them, but it gets very annoying when they persist in making claims that are unfounded......ask any real historian... who is right.. they are just making the claims becuase they want to expand their territory!!!