Do people who renounce the world really sacrifice something?

Question

I mean, the world is the place of misery and bad things, they say, so, when they quit it, they quit bad place, into supposedly better, so they sacrifice nothing?

Answer 1

Hermits & cloistered people are not running away from something, they are running to something. They do not see the world as a "bad" place, but rather neutral. They are called to this way of life so strongly that the so called outer world beyond their walls has no real attraction for them. In this sense then yes, they give up nothing. If you were to attempt to do this as a sacrifice it would be impossible.

Answer 2

Renunciation?!

On the outer, this could be no more than a notion, something for rhetoricians to prattle with.

Moreover is it unapproachable, much less possible.

But on the inner, those who renounce the world do, say, sacrifice but thus so in full consciousness of the feasibility of what the inner worlds provision -- what the Tibetan Lamas in the high places of the Himalayas have turned aside to do; what that handful of Vietnam war veterans in the obscure empties and woodlands of America determine is best -- for them !

To the likes of these rare ones, and for good cause, such is neither loss or sacrifice, for they wish of nothing nihilistic that would exact change upon others or invert the world's axis -- nor perforce shift charges of the great north and south poles.

Answer 3

The world is a truly miserable place for man today. He has caused it to be so through his creation of society. The other animals live simply to preserve themselves. They seek food, shelter, and creating offspring, while they fear only hunger and pain. The fear of death is too lofty an idea to concern the animals of the world, and so they do not fear it. We, as people, have created a new world, where we are in constant competition with one another and can never be happy. There are enjoyable moments which affrod themselves to people to eliviate the pains and sadness which consume their lives. Society causes people to become angered and hate others, while in the natural world, these are not concerns. It forces men to find comfort in others, who will eventually cause them more harm than good. They will betray them, and if they don't they will die and leave them in mourning. Man is constantly striving to succeed, to out do his fellow man, and this jealousy is unhealthy and causes pain, because eachtime he succeeds, there is something else to strive for and want and lust after, and there is no end, no uppermost tier for the winner to sit upon, and if there is any which society has falsely created to be the object of everyone's hearts, some seat among the gods to look down upon men, he will die before he ever reaches it, but not before stepping on everyone else and throwing them down beneath him to get what ultimately cannot be gotten. No, the world in which man has vested himself is not good, and to those who realize this and flee it, leave it only to discover the nothingness of nonexistance. While their bodies are consumed and recycle back into the earth to once again flourish among the other dead as new life, plants and animals, fungi and bacteria, their conciousness however will forever be lost and they will have sacrificed their suffering to gain nothingness, which though it may seem that nothing is a loss of something, if that something is negative, then in essence, something has been gained. But then, all living creatures eventually die, and thus they are simply succumbing to that natural law which demands it.

Answer 4

The answer to question can only be illumined in terms of particular cases rather than a generalization. The sacrifice would be indicative in relation to what precisely the person had renounced and for what reason(s).

Answer 5

Sacrificing something means that thing should in the first place belong to us.The world does not belong to any body. We are here to perform the journey of our life. True sacrifice is the sacrifice of one's comforts and pleasures, supposedly for salvation.

Answer 6

They would sacrifice a lot of wonderful things the world has to offer. But with the good you must also face the bad.

Answer 7

If one agrees with the sophists that "man is the measure of all things" or Sartre that "man must create himself", then it is conceivable that some people who "run away" from wordly concerns may achieve an advantage with no sacrifice.

How many of us have escaped our own difficulties, duties etc by immersing ourselves in something else?...re-creating ourselves..an advantage (arguably temporary) but with no apparent sacrifice.

Also I cannot help but thing about some of Shakespeare's tragic figures like Timon of Athens and King Lear who were cut off due to "ingratitude" with complex outcomes in terms of personal effects, sacrifices etc...

Very interesting question
thanks

Answer 8

As significant as outreach is, that's no longer the main significant concentration. the main significant concentration is to do top. as quickly as we initiate sacrificing purity for outreach, then our faith starts off to become worse. As noble because it sounds to attain human beings, sacrificing the integrity of one's faith or doctrine for the sake of outreach continually leads to deterioration of the physique of religion. It under no circumstances will enhance it. you may get greater followers, yet you will get greater followers to a weakened form of what you as quickly as believed, and if the fad maintains, what you as quickly as believed will grow to be area of the previous. The know-how this is from above is FIRST organic, THEN non violent - James 3:17. Purity is the superb thank you to be continuously powerful interior the long-term.

Answer 9

Yes they sacrifice many creature comforts

Answer 10

No, it just shows how weak-willed they truly are. These people only display their lack of strength to overcome tragedy and to learn from such tragedy to improve themselves.

Now, assuming if there were such things as an afterlife, heaven, etc., It's likely these people who "renounce the world" are merely setting themselves up to go into a supposedly WORSE off place, not better.