what active pitchers in your opinion are future hall of famers ??

Question

curt shilling
roger clemens
greg maddux
randy johnson
tom glavine
john smoltz
david wells
jamie moyer
et al
and why ??

good point about the relief corps of this generation, i just believe it will be harder for these guys based on the fact there are only like 3 true relievers in the hall not counting the ECK
Sutter
FIngers
Wilhelm

Answer 1

From your list, I would say that Clemens, Maddux, R. Johnson, and Glavine are locks for the Hall. Smoltz's wins plus saves should get him in too. Schilling's post season success will probably get him in too.

Then, I would put Pedro Martinez well ahead of Wells and Moyer. Pedro was the most dominant ptcher in the AL during his years with the Red Sox, and Moyer and Wells both have career ERA's over 4.00. Pedro is the only one on the list with a creer ERA under 3.00.

It's too soon to tell for some of the younger guys, but you gotta like Johann Santana's chances. (He's already won 2 Cy Youngs)

And I agree with the other guy who said Hoffman and Rivera should get in as closers.

Answer 2

In:
Clemens, Maddux, Johnson, Glavine, Martinez.

If one has to ask why these five men are future Hall Of Famers, one simply does not understand baseball nor the mission of the Hall.


Not in:
Wells, Moyer


Maybe, but in this era, it's hard to stand out next to the first five men named above:
Smoltz, Mussina, Schilling

Smoltz & Moose are the sixth and seventh best pitchers of the era -- Rocket, Maddux, Unit, Pedro and Glav make for a very tough crowd -- and that might not be good enough. hard to say. Schilling isn't Hall class on his seasons or career numbers, but he carries a lot of legend-class narrative value -- mostly from the 2001 and 2004 championships -- and some writers simply cannot resist that sort of stuff. Plus he's not yet done. We'll have to wait and see.

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PS. Relievers -- Hoffman and Rivera get in.

Answer 3

I'd eliminate a few from your list first.

Jamie Moyer has had a good career, but a 4+ ERA to go with no major awards and a lack of dominance aren't getting him into Cooperstown. The same does for David Wells, another good but not great lefty.

Among starters, I think Pedro Martinez is the most obvious name missing from your list. Over 200 wins, a career ERA under 2.80, 3 Cy Young awards, and a period of absolute dominance from 1997-2003. He's a first-ballot guy. I'd also make the argument that Mussina chance of induction because of his high winning percentage, high victory total, and decent numbers the rest of the way.

Finally, I'd agree with others that Hoffman and Rivera will both be inducted. They have been dominant closers for a long time, and their "counting" stats - in this case saves - are impressive.

Answer 4

John Smoltz, Tom Glavine, Josh Beckett, Randy Johnson, Felix Hernanadez, C.C Sabathia, Trevor Hoffman, Greg Maddux, Curt Schilling, Barry Zito, and Roger Clemens.

Answer 5

I don't know about Wells or Moyer all though they should be close. You forgot Pedro Martinez, it'd be pretty tough to leave him out, and I think I'd put in Al Leiter before Moyer. Obviously you can't forget about the closers as a couple people mentioned. Hoffman, and Rivera are definately in Nathan has a ways to go, but he's on track. It might be a little early to inducte these guys, but I'd have to say Santana, Halladay, Oswalt, and Peavey look like they are well on there way(I actually have all 4 of them in a fantasy league if you can believe it).

Answer 6

These are my Top 10 candidates:

1.Roger Clemens
2.Randy Johnson
3.Greg Maddux
4.Pedro Martinez
5.Mariano Rivera
6.Curt Schilling
7.Tom Glavine
8.John Smoltz
9.Trevor Hoffman
10.Mike Mussina

Answer 7

I like your list except for david wells and jamie moyer. If I were to add players right now to the list, you have to throw in Hoffman and Rivera. Going out on a limb and predicting future Hall of Famers currently active, I'm going to throw out these names as I think when it's all said and done, they'll get there: Oswalt, Peavy, Johan Santana, and maybe Roy Halladay.

Answer 8

I agree with most of your picks, but moyer and wells might not make it. Even though they have more wins than schilling, schilling had that series against the yankees and the sock and led the red sox to their first title in 80 something years.

Along with the relievers mentioned above me, Pedro Martinez for sure and while he isn,t there quite yet, I would think Santana will continue to dominate and be at that level one day.

Answer 9

roger clemens-7 cy youngs, 300 wins, 4000 k's, greatest pitcher of our generation

tom glavine-2 time cy young winner,great fielder as well

greg maddux-only pitcher ever with 300 wins,3000 k's, less than 1000 walks

randy johnson-5 cy youngs, 4000 k's could throw 100 mph fastball and had great slider

curt schilling-great postseason pitcher

pedro martinez-3 cy youngs,best winning percentage for someone with over 200 wins

john smoltz-only pitcher with 200 wins,150 saves

mariano rivera-greatest closer ever

trevor hoffman-all time leader in saves

david wells and jamie moyer arent good enough in my opinion...

Answer 10

Don't forget closers like Trevor Hoffman and Mariano Riviera.