Good point. But you know when the big bang happened as it is theorized today, straight after the explosion there wasnt life or anything beautiful as we may think today. It was just a random mess of hydrogen and helium particles. All that matter took billions of years to form everything today , galaxies, planets, life. It all takes time. So when you said if you splash a bucket of colours onto the wall and nothing great forms on it.....perhaps wait a few million years.....see wat happens. :D
2007-06-08 08:57:09
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answered by TS 1
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What I think is that questions about the Big Bang vs. intelligent design should be posted in the RELIGION section.
To answer the "question": The Big Bang has been proven to be a fact. We just are not certain about what caused it, or what was there before. Facts give me much more comfort than believing that some invisible being just made it all happen. And if it is the case that some god made all of this, then what were they doing before???
Also, isn't it kinda wrong for you to try to pigeon-hole all of existance into your religious view of things? What about the billions of people on this planet who believe other things? Some of these other faiths actually predate Christianity, so who's to say that the Christian version of God created everything? What if we get out into space one day and find out that Stargate was right and there are a bunch of evil Egyptian gods out there? Or what if the Hindus are right?
My point is that we just don't know about ANY of them. So until one of these deities reveals themselves to the whole of humanity, I'll stick with science's explanation. At least it makes sense.
I'm not knocking Christians becuase I was raised as one, but some of us need to learn to just live and let live. It's not what you believe, just that you believe in something. there's power in positive thought no matter which faith you belong to, and I think epople started learning that a very long time ago. It's just a shame that the lesson hasn't reached all of us yet.
2007-06-08 10:08:25
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answered by Nunna Yorz 3
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doesn't that mean that I can close my eyes, splatter paint on the ceiling and create a beautiful scene?
Sure that's what Jackson Pollock did. I think his most recent painting sold for just over $50 million
THE BIG BANG WAS REAL but that doesn't mean you have to say we (life) are hear by chance. Ever hear of the Anthropic Principle..check it out. Perhaps the conditions of the big bang were just right for us too come to existence?
I think I know exactly what what your talking about. It is in our human nature to ask these kinds of questions. Maybe you should be asking: What created the big bang?? not was it real. This is a question that science can't answer and the biggest justification for a creator.
2007-06-08 08:50:08
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answered by kennyk 4
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Just because you can't throw paint and make a work of art doesn't mean Polluck can't. And just because you can't create the Earth doesn't mean it couldn't have happened naturally.
It's really too long to explain all the science here, so you'll have to look it up yourself. Suffice it to say, there is plenty of evidence for the big bang - look up the expansion of the universe and the WMAP and COBE results. As for the Earth, basic physical laws will give you everything you see in the universe. It's basic physics. It works. You don't need a designer.
2007-06-08 09:04:51
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answered by eri 7
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Your question has scientific, philosophical and logical flaws.
Firstly, it is very much a matter of opinion as to whether the image you paint is beautiful or not, and it just so happens that we think that the universe is beautiful or majestic, regardless of what created it. It is the act of human observation that provides the implications of beauty or awe, based upon biased human values, which when discussing a scientific issue is not something upon which an argument should be constructed.
Secondly, the colours of such a painting are not random. They are each the product of each pigment's specific properties that make them absorb some wavelengths of light and reflect others, and we have to be able to perceive the reflected wavelengths too. There are also the physical laws that governed the motion of each paint droplet to the canvas/ceiling- they didn't just randomly make their way there. Motion, gravity, friction, molecular adhesion, the polarity of the (presumed) water solvent and more, all controlled the path taken by each droplet, how much remained stuck to the surface where it dried, dripped down to the floor, or mixed with our colours. There's also the chemistry that created those paints in the first place. Physical laws controlled every aspect of what that "painting" resulted in. It was not random, and to judge that the outcome is somehow deficient or inadequate is introducing human values into the discussion- important in art, but not what we want in science.
The universe is governed by the very same physical laws as that painting, but on an unimaginable scale with a continuous dynamic, so many processes occurring. Gravity is one of the most important forces that arrange the universe. It causes hydrogen gas to come together and compress enough to begin nuclear fusion, creating stars, draws stars together to form galaxies, draws galaxies together to form clusters, clusters together to form superclusters, and the collective gravity of superclusters shape the matter in the universe into a colossal three-dimensional web of galaxies.
But it is a mindless force that just is, and can be predicted by Laws of Physics. You don't need someone to position the planets into the perfect astronomical arrangement when the forces that define what is workable creates them there in the first place. Of course all the planets are orbiting at a perfect velocity and distance to remain in orbit! If they weren't, we wouldn't see them because they wouldn't be there! They would have spiraled into the sun or into the interstellar wastes and we would not consider them. To suggest that it required an intelligent force to arrange such things misses this logical step.
Finally, the Big Bang is not this chaotic explosion that people imagine. It was an explosion, yes, but not a detonation like a bomb or grenade. There was not random chaos from which a universe had to be forged, but the ultimate state of order- homologous energy. But this universe has laws of Thermodynamics, and what we observe of the universe are the natural processes governed by natural forces as the universe marches towards ultimate entropy. Matter is precipitated from energy, matter begins to congregate due to gravity. At first there was mostly Hydrogen, with some Helium and Lithium, the other elements were created in stars by nuclear fusion during their main sequences, red giant phases, and supernovas. This may seem to be an increase in complexity, but the cost is a loss of Hydrogen, the fuel or stellar fusion. They are scattered by dying stars and accrete about young protostars and form planets, and there will be some order for a while in the form of a star system, all due to natural forces, but the debt to disorder is eventually repaid when the star dies and the star system either decays or is obliterated.
There are temporary and isolated increases in complexity and order throughout the universe, due to the input into an open dynamic system of energy. Life is one such example, order and inevitably complexity is allowed to thrive and increase due to the input of energy from the sun. But ultimately entropy wins out in the end, as this energy is a limited resource, the Hydrogen necessary for fusion runs out and the energy supply ceases. The universe will never get that energy or fuel back, and eventually stars will become impossible when it all runs out.
Natural laws make the universe what it is. What we are able to appreciate as order are a product of the decay into disorder, moving from one to the other creates the cosmos as we see it, and we may consider it beautiful. But it cannot be maintained indefinitely, and as the universe continues toward entropy it will stop being beautiful, if indeed there are any human eyes left to see such a universe, which of course there will not be.
2007-06-08 09:49:07
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answered by Bullet Magnet 4
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The Big Bang theory is based on the red shift of stars observed by Hubble and verified by Einstein. This proved that the vast majority of stars in the sky are moving away from earth. If all stars are moving away from earth, then there must be a center that they are moving away from (which has been located with modern telecoping technology). That means all matter originated at some point from one spot.
It is expanded upon with quantum physics.
It really doesnt say that everything is just Random, or unplanned. Nobody knows that the orginal spot isnt just where God was standing when he started making his creation.
For the record, a lot of people do the blind spatterings of paint and call it art, but I honestly dont see it.
The big bang theory doesnt disprove God or even really contradict creationism. Plus, noone can really know what happened, because time travel does not exist to bring us back.
We can only observe and guess and praise God for the wonders he gave us.
2007-06-08 08:57:44
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answered by Anonymous
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The situations are not analogous.
The "scene" on our planet - most notably featuring "life" - is the result of evolution. Evolution is a combination of mutation and natural selection. Mutation is random, but natural selection is decidedly non-random.
Creationists are fond of saying that the odds of life arising are comparable to a tornado going through a junkyard and assembling a jumbo jet. The odds of something like that would be like rolling a quadrillion dice and having all of them come up as sixes. Obviously, that isn't going to happen.
However, evolution doesn't require that to happen, and nobody seriously believes that's what happened.
In actuality, evolution would be better modeled by rolling a quadrillion dice, keeping all the sixes, and rerolling the rest. In surprisingly few "generations" of rerolls, 99.999% of the dice would be sixes - with no planner or designer necessary. Each roll of the dice represents mutation, and natural selection - represented by "survival of the fittest", with sixes judged as "fittest" - brings about a world that looks so purposeful and non-random that lots of people would swear it had to be designed by someone.
2007-06-08 09:33:40
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answered by Bramblyspam 7
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I see which you at the instant are not certainly fascinated in identifying to purchase information, so i visit in basic terms permit you recognize to end yelling. Addendum: jacob s. - "we are uncertain, at present its its a concept!!! we've some evidence helping it yet we've not got sufficient evidence to call it a regulation." that's no longer the way technology works. the huge Bang is a certainty. How the huge Bang befell is the thought. "additionally we've not got the clarification why the subject regarded. yet its concept that each and all of the mass interior the universe (each and every element) replaced into put in to the scale of a marble consistent with danger smaller. and the gravity of all of it brought about it to implode vastly coming up the universe." rely on no account "regarded", different than in its transition from an skill state. each and all of the fabric interior the universe replaced into compressed right into a singularity, which has no length. there replaced into on no account any implosion, and the universe replaced into no longer created.
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answered by ? 3
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Wouldn't the color on the ceiling itself be beautiful? I love color! Why should it matter if the universe is random, cant it still be beautiful, doesn't that make life more fascinating the fact that all life as we know it was merely by chance? For example if you had a child by accident, would you love it any less than a child that was planned? Maybe this universe WAS made by a greater being and planned and detailed, but would it make our universe any less magnificent if it WAS all by chance?
2007-06-08 08:54:49
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answered by Pwnnubs 2
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Are you comparing the creation of the universe to paint?
W.....T.....F.....?.....
That's shallow right there.
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And another thing! Who says the Universe is beautiful? It's a mess of hot gas and rocks. Big fricken deal. Earth is just the same, execpt for the whole "life" factor. And if we are indeed alone in the universe, than the whole life popping up thing had to happen somewhere, right? There were some chemical reactions in some random place which resulted in self-conscience material. The life is what is beautiful, not the rocks and crap.
And besides, all beauty is relevent! We decide what is beautiful. You say that the paint isn't beautiful, I say it is. You say the Universe is beautiful, I say it isn't.
P.S. Sorry if I was harsh, I just wanted to make my point.
2007-06-08 08:52:58
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answered by Jimbomonkey1234 3
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