USA Court grants a Marriage Dissolution Decree without Signature of a Court Official-is this valid ?

Question

The Superior Court of California-Orange County- grants a Decree AS IMPORTANT as a MARRIAGE DISSOLUTION Decree WITHOUT the SIGNATURE of its Authorised Official. It only bears the RUBBER STAMPS of the "Clerk" . When personal enquiry -whether signature CAN BE OBTAINED even on payment of some extra fees-was made at the Court-no SATISFACTORY Answer was forthcoming.
If a Remarriage is required to be carried out in some OTHER Country, this will NOT be considered a Valid Decree. Hence this Remarriage CANNOT be registered there.
Even the Notaries in that Country declined to Notarise the Phtocopies
of the Decree since the ORIGINAL is UNSIGNED.
Even in USA, ALL important Documents/Contracts/MOUs, etc, require to be SIGNED. Do the US Courts accept ANY OTHER DOCUMENTS which are UNSIGNED IN ANY OTHER MATTERS ?

Is there any REMEDY ?

Answer 1

I'm a little confused... In my county, it's common that the judge will sign the original document(which stays in the Court's file), and that the endorsed copies (which are provided to the Court for later distribution to the different parties involved.. so that's what would be provided to YOU..) are simply stamped by the Court clerk with the judges name-stamp, and endorsed. In my county, those endorsed copies are perfectly legitimate, so long as the endorsement stamp is an original stamp.

About the need for a certified copy of the signed original.. for applying to remarry in another country... that does make sense, since it's just an accepted "practice" here to accept those stamped copies with original endorsements. If you go to the Court Clerk, they should have an original signed copy in the case file. If they don't then you can request that the matter be placed on the court calendar and tell the Court what you need. The Court will probably be happy to make this right for you, if the original was, in fact, never signed.

Alternatively, there will be a minute order that accompanies the copy of the dissolution you received, showing the order made by the Court.. that is, if there was a hearing.... If so, you can get an original endorsed copy of the decree and a certified copy of the minute order... that might also be more weighty than what you're apparently showing them.

They're trying to protect against folks falsifying documents. so the endorsement and certification stamps have to be original stamps... you can't take the copy you were provided, which probably has an original endorsement stamp on it, and simply make a copy and use that as proof.

Answer 2

Any unsigned document whether a decree or order or judgment issued by any court of law is not a valid document. In order to confirm that such an decree of dissolution was actually issued by the sitting judge of the court in question or not you can inspect the file of the case which you can do as it is a public record open for public inspection, as well apply for a certified copy of the decree of dissolution of the marriage. If the actual court had not issued such a decree there will not be any copy of the same on the record file of the case as well you will not be issued any certified copy of the same, it means the court clerk has issued an forged document in the form of decree of dissolution of the marriage for which a formal complaint can be lodged with the judge of the Court for taking necessary action against such a clerk.

Answer 3

I dont see this going very far. I do see you ticking off a Justice of the Peace speedy, although, with the aid of pushing what he could evaluate a minor clerical slipup... finally he's the main suitable say in this remember, although. sturdy luck, yet please tread gently....

Answer 4

if its stamped its valid ! thats all mine has ! and thats good enough for me !

Answer 5

you need to call an attorney