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The point of the questions was to show that our founding fathers were the liberals of their day...they were not not conservatives, as the corporate media and right wingers spin.

I wanted to witness conservative reactions to the actual words of our founding fathers.

I also wanted to introduce the words of a couple of other conservatives...to show how what passes for conservatism today is not conservative, but rather right wing extremism camouflaged by corporate spin to represent American values and conservatism. It’s a fraud. The conservatives are a fraud

2007-06-06 14:39:34 · 4 answers · asked by Peace Warrior 4 in Politics & Government Politics

1.“ As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality."

2. "Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause. I had hoped that liberal and enlightened thought would have reconciled the Christians so that their religious fights would not endanger the peace of Society.”
3. “How has it happened that millions of myths, fables, legends and tales have been blended with Jewish and Christian fables and myths and have made them the most bloody religion that has ever existed? Filled with the sordid and detestable purposes of superstition and fraud?”

2007-06-06 14:41:27 · update #1

4.“In every country and in every age the priest [any and every clergyman] has been hostile to liberty; he is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.”

5.“The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion. It has been the most destructive to the peace of man since man began to exist. Among the most detestable villains in history, you could not find one worse than Moses, who gave an order to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers and then rape the daughters. One of the most horrible atrocities found in the literature of any nation. I would not dishonor my Creator's name by attaching it to this filthy book.”

2007-06-06 14:44:10 · update #2

6. “The Infinite Father expects or requires no worship or praise from us.”

7.“Leave the matter of religion to the family altar, the church and the private school supported entirely by private contributions. Keep the church and state forever separate.”

8. "I don't have any respect for the Religious Right."
and
"A woman has a right to an abortion."

1. George Washington
2. George Washington
3. John Adams
4. Thomas Jefferson
5. Thomas Paine
6. Benjamin Franklin
7. US Grant
8. Barry Goldwater

Who did the conservatives credit the quotes to......

"Saddam Hussein"
"Hitler"
"some kind of idiot"
"Kim Jung IL"
"crap from any given liberal"

Illuminating

2007-06-06 14:55:47 · update #3

4 answers

George Washington
George Washington
John Adams
Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Paine

2007-06-06 15:01:04 · answer #1 · answered by Peter Pumpkin Eater 5 · 3 1

I'm going to institution a few of these on the grounds that a few have the equal responses. one million and a pair of) This best applies to individual residents and corporations who do not already purchase/furnish well being coverage. For individual residents, that implies inexpensive charges, even for many who do not purchase into Obamacare, on the grounds that the pool will grow to be vastly enlarged. This applies to each the ones men and women who do not desire well being coverage and people who can't have enough money it. For organizations, this rather best applies to those who presently can't have enough money it, this means that it makes the rate feasible to have enough money. What's extra, those organizations get primary tax incentives to take action. three) Oh, so that you benefit from the present method, wherein well being coverage organizations are just about monopolies inside precise areas? This is rather simply forcing a few approach of fairness into the marketplace, which is right for just about each different trade, simply now not for well being coverage vendors. four) Another signal that you just, for a few motive, respect the monopolies that those organizations have on us. The quandary is that the overhead they cost is flawlessly fair for them on the grounds that we haven't any different choices. We're pressured to pay further to satisfy their "overhead expenditures" (which most likely are a long way lower than what they cost), and we need to abide that otherwise we get no coverage. This is helping make well being care low-priced by way of doing away with the monopolizing facets of the enterprise. five) Yet an extra signal that you just help monopolies. Medical gear organizations by and large collude with well being care vendors to make certain that they purchase luxurious machines and use them extra by and large (even if useless) on the grounds that it is extra earnings for each the clinic and the clinical gadget organization. The instructional materials nearly be certain that they can't do that anymore, lowering expenditures around the board. 6) The instructional materials do not say "irrespective of losses." Pharmaceutical organizations will probably be pressured to cut back title-company drug expenditures to a fee that is extra low-priced in nations like ours. Right now, the method is nearly "if you'll cost it, you'll get it!" for far the equal motive as with clinical gadget organizations - there simply don't seem to be any choices to plenty of medications in the market. And with the period of time a drug remains on patent, expenditures can shoot up vastly so long as there is not any pageant. This solves for that. 7) No clue what you are speaking approximately right here. You're going to need to be way more unique if you happen to desire to mention that they are contradicting such a lot of amendments. A few of them I recognise offhand and the inspiration that the Act defies them is natural B.S. eight) The Act additionally presents extra tax incentives for insurance plan. Companies that can't quilt extra men and women are being supported to aid quilt them. Should they decide upon to not (as you assert they have already got) that is now not Obama's fault, that is their fault for now not utilising the methods in location to make it low-priced.

2016-09-06 00:09:46 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Same ole BS what you claim as liberal thought has absolutely nothing to do with "the New Left" and you know it. Every time you compare the neo-marxists that rose out of the 60's counterculture and became the extreme Liberal base of the Democratic party it is a smear on this great nation and its history. You compare men like Thomas paine and Benjamin Franklin to Code-Pink and the rest of those little Maoists and Trotskyites and make a joke of this great nation.

2007-06-06 14:59:26 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 6

Just as the definition of democrat has changed, as well as republican, from the founding days of this country, so has the word "liberal". It used to mean freedom-minded patriots, it now means socialist-minded big government whiners that view the constitution as a "living" document, open to loose interpretation allowing funding for the welfare state, enema painting, and horse-f*cking. Freedom of will is fine, and please, if you must, f*ck a horse, but don't claim that the liberal founders intended for government funding for every act under the sun. NEA. Convoluted I know, but quit trying to claim that our founders were "liberal" in the modern sense of the word. It's bullsh*t. The word "gay" used to mean happy, but if you call a hetero gay, you may get punched. Get it?

2007-06-06 15:15:24 · answer #4 · answered by Tucson Hooligan 4 · 1 5

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