Which one of the thirteen Confederate States had and still has a legitimate right to succeed from the USA?

Question

10 points to the first one to get it right. Hint it is not a Constitutional Right. This State has this Right by Treaty.

I will post the answer in ten minutes.

Texas is correct. When Texas obtained their Independence from Mexico they became a Sovergien Nation. In order to come into the United States as a State the Sovergien Nation of Texas entered into a Treaty with the US and part of that Treaty.......that is still in effect........said that Texas can return to a Sovergien Nation status any time they want to. Check it out!!

Count them: VA; NC; SC; GA; FL; AL; TN; AR; TX; LA; MS; Indian Territory (OK); and AZ Territory.

KY, MO and New Mexico Territory were claimed but never under effective control.

Jim Boob today the only talk of secession is coming from Vermont and New Hampshire. I have no interest other than I am a history buff. There is nothing to give up. As far as the Surpreme Court goes secessionist in Vermont have a number of legal scholars saying is invalid. Check it out Jim Boob

If any one is interested go to Google search engine and enter American Secession Project. That will give a list of states in which legality of secession is NOW being debated. Read it for your self. Jim Boob is no authority on anything. Also note ALL of the States debating secession are YANKEES.

Answer 1

Texas was a Sovereign Nature when it came into the Union. Part of the Treaty that allowed for Texas to do that said that Texas can return to Sovereign Nation status when they want to.

Answer 2

First of all, there were only 11 confederate states, az territory and Indian territory were never admitted to the CSA as states. So get over yourself!

Second, Texas, nor any other state, ever had the right of secession

Commonwealth states did not retain a right to secession when they joined the USA, some confederate wannabes, otherwise known as revisionists, say that some states added reservations, this is not true, historically or legally.

Third, as to Texas, from the document itself, and the link is provided below:

For that purpose, the President of the United States has given full Powers to John C. Calhoun, Secretary of State of the said United States, and the President of the Republic of Texas has appointed, with like powers, Isaac Van Zandt and J. Pinckney Henderson, citizens of the said Republic: and the said plenipotentiaries, after exchanging their full powers, have agreed on and concluded the following articles:
ARTICLE I.

The Republic of Texas, acting in conformity with the wishes of the people and every department of its government, cedes to the United States all its territories, to be held by them in full property and sovereignty, ...

(as anyone with the ability to read can plainly see, there is no reservation of soveriegnty in the document at all)

...and to be annexed to the said United States as one of their Territories, subject to the same constitutional provisions with their other Territories. This cession includes all public lots and squares, vacant lands, mines, minerals, salt lakes and springs, public edifices, fortifications, barracks, ports and harbours, navy and navy-yards, docks, magazines, arms, armaments and accoutrements, archives and public documents, public funds debts, taxes and dues unpaid at the time of the exchange of the ratifications of this treaty.

Finally, the US Supreme Court has ruled in Texas v White, on the issue of secession, while the people have the revolutionary right to rebel against the USA, they do not now and have never had a legal recouse to secede from it.

whale

Answer 3

Two problems here. First of all, there were only eleven Confederate states, not thirteen. Second of all, regardless of whether Texas had any right of secession under the original treaty of annexation in 1845, by Supreme Court decision they no longer have such a right, as that question would be governed by the terms of Texas' re-admission to the Union during Reconstruction.

Answer 4

Wrong.

First, there were 11 states.

Second, check out the Supreme Court's ruling in Texas v. White (1869). No state (and Texas is a state) has the right of secession. Give it up - the South is not rising again!

Answer 5

Texas

Answer 6

Texas also has the right to divide into more states, if they ever choose to; I think the limit is 5.

Answer 7

However, if I remeber correctly, the right of succession is also avalable to all the 'commonwealth states". these are states whose constitutions were formulated with a return to britain clause.

Virginia and Massachusetts come to mind off the top of my head.

But if I remember correctly this clause was circumvented by laws and ammendments following the civil war.

Answer 8

texas

Answer 9

tx or sc