The World War II Pope -- Innocent?

Question

I just read this AP story ---- http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070605/ap_on_re_eu/wartime_pope_1

What do you think about it?

Check out the fourth paragraph in particular -- such a bad spin job it's almost comical.

The pope's speaking out would have accelerated the exterminations? First, the Germans really couldn't have done things much faster than they did. Second, since a lot of Catholics tend to hypnotically obey every Vatican edict, perhaps a denunciation would have prompted some heroic life-saving counter-measures. There are numerous accounts of people of all faiths [including Catholics] helping the persecuted; bishops, cardinals, and popes were not included. I have nothing against Catholic people, but the hierarchy of the church is another matter.

Oy vey............

Answer 1

No serious scholar contests the evidence that Pius XII was not only pro-Hitler, but went out of his way to protect his facist Catholic mass-murderers from WWII Spain, Italy, Croatia and of course Germany.

However, in recent years we have seen extraordinary efforts on the part of the Vatican and its Catholic apologists, pr agents and spin doctors to actually reverse the pro-Nazi stance of Pius into the myth that he was against facism.

Let us therefore look at the indisputable facts that cannot be "spinned":

+++The Vatican Racist+++

In fact, let us look at Pacelli’s own words about his opinion of Jews in 1919 in a report back to the Pope:

“An army of employees were dashing to and fro, giving out orders, waving bits of paper, and in the midst of all this, a gang of young women, of dubious appearance, Jews like all the rest of them, hanging around in all the offices with provocative demeanor and suggestive smiles. The boss of this female gang was Levien's mistress, a young Russian woman, a Jew and a divorcee, who was in charge. And it was to her that the nunciature was obliged to pay homage in order to proceed. This Levien is a young man, about 30 or 35, also Russian and a Jew. Pale, dirty, with vacant eyes, hoarse voice, vulgar, repulsive, with a face that is both intelligent and sly." Archbishop Pacelli (Pope Pius).

Far from taking any effective action to help Jews, upon the entry of the Nazis to Rome in 1943, the Germans did commence the deportation of over 1,000 Jews who lived near the Vatican. That in a unique gesture, the German ambassador in Rome, fearing an anti-Pope backlash from the general Italian population, pleaded with the Pope on behalf of Adolf Hitler to issue a public protest to at least indicate the existence of some holiness claimed to be possessed by the office of Pope.. That no other historical record can be found where Hitler, or any of his officials did grant any person, official or organisation the right to criticize it, except for the Vatican. In spite of this unique and extraordinary open invitation by Hitler to criticize him, Pope Pius XII refused and the Jews were sent by cattle cars to Auschwitz for burning. To this day, the Vatican has neither admitted this inhumanity, nor apologized to the 15 survivors.


+++The mentor of Hitler+++

Pacellli (Pope Pius) knew Hitler personally when he was appointed to Munich. One only has to look at the history of the formation of the Nazi Party to see how heavily Pacelli was involved in setting up the "death machine"- let alone support it.

(1917) That Pope Benedict XV did commission and authorize Archbishop Pacelli, then papal nuncio (ambassador) also known later as Pope Pius XII, to Munich, Germany in May 1917 under the diplomatic guise to negotiate a Concordat (Treaty) with largely Protestant Germany. That to assist in negotiating such an agreement, the Pope did authorize the release of approximately 60 cases of Gold (over 1,000 gold bars) representing approximately $80 to $100 million (2006 US equivalent dollars) to travel with Archbishop Pacelli under the pretence of “60 cases of special foods for his delicate stomach”. However, that these funds, originally themselves obtained through crime were to never intended for the support of failing German government and military, but as funds to support anti-Communist political movements and sympathizers.

(1920 – 1945): That Archbishop Pacelli later Pope Pius XII and the Jesuit order under the control of Superior General Wlodimir Ledochowski did help form the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (German Workers' Party), abbreviated DAP, into the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP), also known as the Nazi Party as instructed to Adolf Hitler. That the initial purpose of the Nazi Party as formed by the Catholic Church was to (1) establish a pro-Catholic political party capable of defeating its opposition and gaining control of government; (2) establish a Concordant between the Catholic Church and the whole of Germany guaranteeing a massive financial pipeline in compensation for losing the Papal States; and (3) The elimination of all opposition including social reform/democratic minded groups, especially protestants, orthodox christians, communists and ethnic Jews.

That Archbishop Pacelli (later Pope Pius XII) did mentor Hitler to join the DAP, did arrange form him to report to him regularly (at least each month, sometimes weekly) until Pacelli appointment of Vatican Cardinal Secretary of State in 1929 and did provide all the financial support and means for Hitler’s rise to Chairman of the NSDAP in 28 July 1921. Furthermore, that Archbishop Pacelli did use the gold brought in to Germany in 1917 to help fund the rapid expansion of the Nazi Party, including its first reform as a paramilitary organization in 1921.

(1921 – 1945): That Archbishop Pacelli later Pope Pius XII on instructions from Superior General Wlodimir Ledochowski did instruct Adolf Hitler in 1921 to establish a paramilitary wing to the NSDAP to be known as the Sturmabteilung (SA) also known as Storm Troopers. That Jesuit priests did train the first recruits of the SA in espionage, counter intelligence, assassination and propaganda. That the purpose of the SA was to assist in the control of organized protests, riots, intimidation of opponents and political assassinations.

(1924): That upon Adolf Hitler being imprisoned, Superior General Wlodimir Ledochowski of the Jesuit Order did instruct Father Bernhardt Staempfle S.J. to write Mein Kampf (“My Struggle”), to brief Hitler on its contents, attribute him to its authorship and ensure its mass publication.

(1929 – 1945): That Superior General Wlodimir Ledochowski through his Jesuit emissaries did instruct Adolf Hitler in 1929 to reform a section of the Sturmabteilung (SA) also known as Storm Troopers into Schutzstaffel also known as the “SS”. That unlike the SA that was staffed by variously skilled persons, the Jesuits instructed Hitler that the SS was to be a most secret organization of personal bodyguards and elite, staffed with and controlled by actual Jesuit priests. That SS officers would be conferred by the authority of the Jesuits and the power of the Pope with the powers of Catholic priesthood. Furthermore, that the SS priests were to be embedded across the organisation to ensure strict control and prevent dissention. That in exchange, the Jesuits did agree to personally fund its implementation as well as introduce its substantial business funds and industry interests into Germany. That on January 6, 1929 Adolf Hitler appointed Heinrich Himmler to oversee the project.
I leave it up to you and your readers to decide who is telling the truth.

By the way, the Allies called the escape systems of the Vatican for mass murderers and war criminals in the final years of WWII, the "rat lines" ....

Answer 2

No serious scholar contests the evidence that Pius XII took direct and indirect measures to save Jews from the Nazi death machine.

At the start of World War II, Pope Pius XII’s first encyclical was so anti-Hitler that the Royal Air Force and the French air force dropped 88,000 copies of it over Germany. Here is a link to the Summi Pontificatus: Encyclical of Pope Pius XII on the Unity of Human Society, October 20, 1939: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xii/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_20101939_summi-pontificatus_en.html

Unfortunately the Soviet Union and others had been trying to convince the world that the Catholic Church was pro-Nazi since the death of Pope Pius in 1958. Here are some sources:
+ The KGB made corrupting the Church a priority: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YTUzYmJhMGQ5Y2UxOWUzNDUyNWUwODJiOTEzYjY4NzI=
+ The KGB campaign against Pius XII: http://www.the-tidings.com/2007/021607/difference.htm
+ Pius XII and the Jews: http://web.archive.org/web/20010919100700/http://www.weeklystandard.com/magazine/mag_6_23_01/dalin_bkart_6_23_01.asp
+ http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/a/ww2jews.html

See also "The Myth of Hitler’s Pope: How Pope Pius XII Rescued Jews From the Nazis" by David G. Dalin which has compiled further overwhelming proof of Pope Pius Xii"s friendship for the Jews beginning long before he became pope.

With love in Christ.

Answer 3

Alas, it wasn't only the Pope that remained silent while millions of Jews, and non Jews, were dying in the gas chambers.

It's been proven that various key figures in the British government DID know what was happening, yet did nothing. They could have bombed the concentration camps, but they chose not to.

And after the second world war, many countries closed their doors to the Jews, and turned them away - turned them back to Germany. If anyone has ever read the brilliant novel 'Exodus' by Leon Uris, they'll know what I'm talking about.

Answer 4

why doesn't the church speak out about americas prison camps? Oh, that's right because it's a part a rationalized war machine. Everyone crossed thier T's and dotted thier i's, the murder of 'enemies is entirely legal. It's all been debated publicaly and decided on by the society. Priests today scream kill muslims kill muslims. Now you know how it works.

Answer 5

With all due respect, for the Catholic Church its all about survival. At the time they didn't know witch way the war was going to go, so being as neutral as possible was the smartest way to go.

Answer 6

my ars, god must be turning over in his grave.