How screwed do you think we are?

Question

With the coming election I grow more and more uneasy because of the possibility of a liberal sitting in the Oval Office. Judging by how Clinton handled terror during his administration I think it’s reasonable that a new Dem. in office will be soft. It also seems that the new Dems. will try to bring back a Carter style economic policy. (High taxes, inflation, gas crisis.....)

JFK Terror plot
http://www.wnbc.com/news/13431721/detail.html?dl=mainclick

Iran's President
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSBLA32653020070603?feedType=RSS&rpc=22

Immigration bill
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/03/AR2007060301455.html?hpid%3Dtopnews&sub=AR

Putin and Russia
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070602.wputin01/BNStory/International/home

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1878730.ece

Stock Market Highs & current economic strength
http://money.cnn.com/2007/06/01/markets/markets_405/

This is the worst news story!!!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/01/health/webmd/main2876963.shtml

Hey Dull Jon, If you think the WTC attack can't be blamed on Clinton take a look at this.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/etc/cron.html

No soup for you!!

Hey DoubleDeuce44, If you think the economic prosperity of the 90's was because of Bill your a sheep. The 90's were a time of low government spending(due to the cold war ending) and low economic pressure. His ecomomic policy had nothing to do with it. Compare that to the current economic pressure and the great ecomomy, guess Bush did something right!

No soup for you!!

I hear alot of noise but not a single reference to back up your differing opinion. If there are no facts then I will assume your totally wrong.

Thank you James S., we are all dumber now after hearing your little rant.

Here are the facts:

Clinton gets little or no credit for the good economy.

http://econ161.berkeley.edu/TotW/clinton.html

http://www.cato.org/dailys/08-17-00.html

http://www.hoover.org/publications/uk/3411496.html

Bush's tax cuts and the economy:
http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=255139775271860

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_policy_of_the_George_W._Bush_administration#Economy

Maybe you should pay attention to the phrase "inheitied for the Clinton administraton"!! Idiot

Answer 1

I feel you on the fear factor buddy, 2008 will be a critical year for the entire world. It depends on which dem we have in office that we can judge our doom on. If its Hillary or Edwards then we are beyond screwed we're eleveated to hopelessness, recklessness, millions of illegals living better than the citizens, eradication of the middle class,and things to scary to mention. The others aren't too far behind them either.

Answer 2

I would like to remind the pathological left that it was William Jefferson Clinton who first introduced the anti-terrorism bills in the mid 1990s. House Resolutions 1710 and 2202 were passed after the Oklahoma City Bombing. These Acts enabled all future acts to be justified under the all encompassing "terrorism" that has been inculcated in the American psyche today. Without Clinton's anti-terrorism legislation, there could be no PATRIOT ACT! Bill Clinton has indeed played his part well in this globalist scheme. All congressional acts must be fostered first and then introduced later when the public and congress becomes susceptible to fear and scrutiny. This is how you drive the "herd!" And driven we all are!

Answer 3

People like you truly amaze me. If you know all the answers, why pose the question? Did you perhaps think that differing opinions have traditionally steered our country in the middle, neither too often left or too often right? Thankfully, we are STARTING to move back to the center.

You criticize Dull Jon for stating to you facts, not conspiracy theories.

Please consider this: The current administration and right dominated Congress has given us the largest tax increase in history. The American public simply hasn't taking the time, effort, and intellectual power to notice. Since President Clinton left office, the national debt has risen roughly $3.5 trillion. At the same time, the right dominated Congress imposed their much beloved tax cut.

WAKE UP! This is the equivalent of the kids going to Paris first class and maxing out the credit cards. Mom and Dad don't know the damage until the bills arrive. Naturally, the bank will blame the parents, who have to pay regardless of whether they spent the money or not.

SOMEONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY OUR CREDIT CARD BILL, AND IT SURE AS HELL ISN'T GOING TO BE THE NEO-CONS THAT RAN IT UP. GRAB YOUR CHECKBOOK, RAJINCAJIN, BECAUSE WE HAVE A DEBT TO PAY.

You're cute. You think the stock market and so-called economic strength verify a greath economy? Follow the other lemmings; right this way. Corporate strength in the United States has been generated through several means. One of which involves reduction of work force. This means higher organizational profits via lower costs, but also high unemployment--at least for 26 (or 52 weeks), after which, the unemployed no longer collect unemployment benefits and statistically are employed.

We also cannot forget the corporate welfare funded by the tremendous budget deficits and resulting expanse in national debt. I know, the American public has been fed the fallacy that this was all used to fund the war. Perhaps you might wish to do some accounting?

A $3.5 trillion expanse in the national debt to support the military and security forces? I will go right outside and look under the rocks, because it ain't showed up here. You do the math.

You see RajinCajin, its a recession when you have no job and I'm making money; it's a depression when I have no job.

You criticize DoubleDeuce44 for stating facts. I don't like everything he says, but don't become insulting unless you want the insults thrown back it you.

The Clinton fiscal success involved bi-partisan cooperation between President Clinton and Congress. Although the relationship was at times turmultuous, it was effective.
Oh, by the way, when you hurl your insults back on me, forget the soup. It's on your face.

My apologies for being so insulting; however, apparently it is necessary to do a wake up call.

Do not ask the question if you only want agreement.

Now, that I have responded to your insulting, closed-minded partisan comments, I will respond to your question--if you still have interest.

We are not "screwed." In fact, with the election of the Democrat-dominated Congress, balanced by the Republican White House, the country should start steering toward the center. The election of liberal Democrat might negatively affect this course; however, the election of a conservative Democrat or liberal Republican probably would not.

Clinton's handling of the terror situation. I can't go to deep into this area for reasons I prefer not to state; however, I think you might be well served to look at more than one source. Or, do you think Americans should only view Michael Moore films to make our judgement of President Bush, his handling of the terror situation, and the relationship of the Bush Family and the bin Laden Family?

I certainly would think not.

Once again, the soup is on your face.

U.S. fiscal policy. Damn, Guy?! Somebody has to pay for deficit spending! Do you charge things up on your credit card and not pay the bill?

Soup is on your face.

America has plenty of available credit, (debt to annual income ratio, circa 75:100) and can use that credit (for emergencies) if necessary; however, RajinCajin, we also have to pay the bill. In this case, I would prefer a "Tax and Spend" Democrat to a "Neo-Con" Bush Republican. I don't give my credit cards to the kids.

On Defense, maybe we better get some Democrats back. Perhaps those who said it would take 450,000 troops in Iraq to accomplish the mission properly?

Do you read or simply listen to right-wing 30-second sound bytes? If you read, pick up a copy of George H.W. Bush's (the Father, definitely not the son) book, "A World Transformed." pp. 486-489 are especially good. One might wish the younger Bush had read it.

Finally, America has its Constitution, although some forces currently in power may seek to weaken its importance.

The Constitution in my opinion is the most holy document ever written. Truly a case of divine intervention.

If we have the Constitution, we follow its principles, and defened it, we will not be "screwed." If we start to believe liberals, conservatives, Democrats, Republicans, or whoever, doesn't need to be checked and balanced, and we think that "they know better than we do," or we do not take the time to be actively involved in politics and begin to hate it, we are not screwed,

WE ARE SO F'***ED.

Keep the f'ing soup.

Answer 4

We're not screwed, far from it really. The US still has vast resources, the chief of which is creative thinking. I think you'll find it similar to when Old George left office, magically the economy improved and citizens made significant personal gains. We're almost back on track from 9/11 and the frightened, weak willed, right wing collapse of our nation. Say what you will about Slick Willie but the attack didn't occur on his watch.

Response to your addition:
Oh I know, you j$%koffs love to blame Bill, we also have plenty of proof that the same threat was ignored by George and Dick.

Thanks for the personal attack too! Since you're overly defensive about the subject, why would you ask in an open discussion?

BTW kudos! It's not often one hears you right-lane panic mongers talking about "facts".
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/48/17356

Further response to what you said to James:
Wow, you won't listen to anyone who doesn't agree with you. Instead you lash out at them... VERY mature. I guess we don't need to answer any of your future questions. Also, "inheitied" is not a word I have ever heard before, funny it's not in the dictionary either...

Answer 5

hahahaha

I'm more worried that a REPUBLICAN will get into office.

Foreign policy is a huge responsibility. You cannot blame on Carter for the start of what happened in Iran. That was an internal revolution that occurred over the span of thirty years because Eisenhower supported a CIA coup over Mossadeq and replaced the liberal mouthpiece with the Shah. The US engaged diplomatic relaitons only with the Shah and was not aware of the social turmoil....the point being is this: the older demographic in Iran holds a cultural hostility against us b/c we installed the Shah. And what did the Shah do? He repressed his people and warred with Shia Islam. Carter was helpless b/c he couldn't pursue any military or economic option that could result in the death of those hostages. He did eventually but it turned out to be disastrous since the helicopters clashed into each other.

Answer 6

1) Bush's tax cuts and war efforts come at the expense of an unsustainable deficit. Whoever is in office next will have to make tough choices. If it's a democrat, you bet the republicans will be all over him about those choices, and will quickly forget who made the mess in the first place.

2) Am I to understand you are happy with gas prices and the economy right now? Mmmhhh.... Interesting.

3) So you're happy with the way Bush handled terror? You think the war in Iraq was a good idea? By the way, why didn't he maximize resources going after bin Laden in Afghanistan?

Answer 7

It is truly scary. The Carter Administration was a disaster because not only did you have a dem President but a dem controlled Congress. Just register and make sure and vote. It's the only hope.

Answer 8

At the very least, the next President, liberal or not, will be able to spell their own name.

Dems weakness is that they are disunited complainers- but NOT that they are weak on security. 8 out of 10 of the highest ranking generals are democratic supporters, primarily bc they've seen what Dr.Strangeloves we have in office right now.

Get the facts straight. Clinton's admin had the lowest tax rate, the highest federal surplus and the greatest GDP boom economy of all time. We should be so lucky to get a clinton-school politician back in office.

Answer 9

You know what I really think .......ultimately.......if there is a threat that cannot be dealt away or bribed away or bought away or persuaded away ........we'll go survivor on their @sses!!!!

At some point the American (basic) stream to exist will prevail.....even at the cost of unknown human life will prevail!!!!
It's that ....over my dead cold body will you prevail attitude that will overcome!!!!!

LIVE and let live...BUT LIVE!!!!

F%CK all those backwoods sand dwelling humanitarian quashing neanderthals......walk into the future of existence or be gone!!!!!!

Regardless of in which country you exist!!!!

THIS IS MY EXISTANCE TOO!!!!

You chose the wrong person to mess with!!!

I will survive and pass on your contribution!

Answer 10

Well I guess if we are screwed if its at least by one of the guys in yoru last news story it wont hurt as bad.