Ever notice cons often make the argument that Democrats do nothing for the poor?

Question

and that our policies actually cause more poverty?

Ever notice how they never provide the evidence to back it up?

In fact, the opposite is true. People tend to rise out of poverty faster then Democrats run the country.

Here is the percentage point change in poverty for various presidents:

FDR N/A
JFK/LBJ -9.40
CLINTON -3.50
REAGAN +0.00
BUSH SR +1.80 (88' to 92')
BUSH JR +1.30 (00' to 05')

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/histpov/hstpov2.html

Here is the change in inflation adjusted median wage in net dollars and percent:

NET DOLLARS

FDR N/A
JFK/LBJ N/A
CLINTON +5,825
REAGAN +3,429
BUSH JR -1,273 (00' to 05')
BUSH SR -1,394 (88' to 92')

PERCENT CHANGE

FDR N/A
JFK/LBJ N/A
CLINTON +13.94%
REAGAN +8.62%
BUSH JR -2.67% (00' to 05')
BUSH SR -3.23% (88' to 92')

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/histinc/h06ar.html

"Mr God",

Take the poverty rate value from 2000 and subtract the poverty rate value from 1992. That is how I got the percent point reduction for Clinton. I followed the same procedure for the others.

Answer 1

You don't care about the poor. You want them in a welfare state, just barely above the poverty level, so that they kowtow to you and give you votes.

Why don't you espouse programs in which individuals can prosper...create wealth...become successful?

Answer 2

Your numbers dont match the links that you posted from the census. I hope you didn't do the math and just pulled that off some liberal website.

I think I can help you with your question though. If you go back 65 or so years....the average of all those years of the % of people in poverty would be 12%. Exactly what it is today....about 12%. Yes, the % fluctuates a bit, But still....even after all those liberal social programs the % of people in poverty is still the same as it was 65 years ago. Why do you suppose that is? I can help you with this answer too. We are a free country. And in a free country people are free to be lazy, stupid and free to make stupid choices when it comes to money. We will always have poor in this country because of freedom. The good news is that no one individual has to be poor in this country, We have opportunity for everyone. However, once again....Freedom. Even though there is opportunity for everyone, People are free not to choose those opportunities. More good news....Our poor live better than the middle class of most countries. NO MATTER HOW MUCH FREE MONEY YOU GIVE TO THE POOR AND NO MATTER HOW MANY NEW SOCIAL PROGRAMS YOU CREATE, ABOUT 12% OF OUR POPULATION WILL REMAIN BELOW THE POVERTY LEVEL.
As a conservative, I dont blame the democrats for poverty. I blame the poor people themselves. However, I do think the democrats use the poors ignorance for their own parties benefit.
Now, you being a democrat and wanting to help the poor so much, you are free to give them as much of YOUR OWN money as you want. However, where I take issue with you democrats is you trying to give the poor MY MONEY. I just dont feel passionate about giving the lazy poor some of my hard earned money for doing nothing at all. However, Im happy to help those poor who actually want to EARN AND BE SELF SUPPORTIVE. Im always happy to put a poor person to work mowing my lawn or something like that.

Answer 3

Those are not fair comparisons. Data like that by itself means nothing, and I think you already know that.
I would like to point out, however, that the Democrats you use in your example were hardcore capitalist.
The front running Democrats for president today are socialist. I don't think you can count on Hillary Clinton to take up the fiscal policies of her husband. Bill Clinton was not a socialist. I suspect that may have been why there was some trouble in the bedroom between the two.

Answer 4

Chris: NAFTA was designed by GHW Bush and finalized by Clinton just to be fair and acurate!!

To the questioner....you also have to factor which party was in the majority in Congress during the forementioned Presidents!!

EDIT: I hope really soon that the citizens will come to realize that the people who are picked for the Presidency are more alike than different when it comes globalization and the New World Order/PNAC!
A few different tactics to satisfy the base.....but ultimately they are on the same path!!

Answer 5

Why do Liberals seem the need to convince themselves, that dems like Ted Kennedy and his Patrick, who have never held real jobs in there lives are in touch with the poor and give back to the Poor? Both sides are rich Bush cut Taxes now the Dems wat to raise taxes, John Edwrads gets a 400 dollar haircut, and he's in touch with the common man? or Laura Bush gets a 700 Dollar Haircut, both sides are guilty when it comes to the poor, so keep trying to convince yourself the Libs care about the poor, hope you sleep better tonight.

Answer 6

Personally, most of the people I know who vote Democrat are all benevolent, down to earth people.

On the other hand, many of the people I know who vote Republican tend to be more "tight fisted" with their money, and seem to rag more about welfare.

I try not to get my shorts in a knot about it all.

I give to others until it feels better; know what I mean?

None of us get out of this alive, anyway. I've always found it rewarding to share part of what I have with others...

Answer 7

Travolta ~ a liberal lie ~ here is one example about clinton

What policy did Bill Clinton implement to create millions of jobs? The majority of jobs that were created under the Clinton Administration were Internet related. The great boom of the Internet led to the creation of millions of jobs, which Clinton had nothing to do with. As a result of so many people working and paying taxes, there were large government surpluses. However, instead of attacking terrorism, Bill Clinton decided to use the Justice Department to attack Microsoft. There is a direct time line link between the decline of the NASDAQ and the ruling to break up Microsoft. As the NASDAQ declined many Internet companies failed or downsized. As a result, millions of jobs were lost and government revenues declined. Bill Clinton was handed a great economy and with his actions only served to undermine it.

Answer 8

NAFTA, a democratic action, did more to cause the immigration problem in America by compounding the problems of Mexican poverty than any other action by a U.S president.

Answer 9

That's because Republicans (not all) steal from the poor to give to the rich in hopes that some of the money they stole will trickle back down to those they stole it from!

Voodoo Economics 101 by David Stockman and Ronald Reagan!

NAFTA, what a joke! We give tax incentives to those whe MOVE JOBS OUT OF THE COUNTRY!

Oh he didn't Miss Kitty!

d7-30-1996, WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Clinton urged Congress Tuesday to act swiftly in developing anti-terrorism legislation before its August recess.
"We need to keep this country together right now. We need to focus on this terrorism issue," Clinton said during a White House news conference.
But while the president pushed for quick legislation, Republican lawmakers hardened their stance against some of the proposed anti-terrorism measures.
Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Mississippi, doubted that the Senate would rush to action before they recess this weekend. The Senate needs to study all the options, he said, and trying to get it done in the next three days would be tough.
One key GOP senator was more critical, calling a proposed study of chemical markers in explosives "a phony issue."
Taggants value disputed
Clinton said he knew there was Republican opposition to his proposal on explosive taggants, but it should not be allowed to block the provisions on which both parties agree.
"What I urge them to do is to be explicit about their disagreement, but don't let it overcome the areas of agreement," he said.
The president emphasized coming to terms on specific areas of disagreement would help move the legislation along. The president stressed it's important to get the legislation out before the weekend's recess, especially following the bombing of Centennial Olympic Park and the crash of TWA Flight 800.
"The most important thing right now is that they get the best, strongest bill they can out -- that they give us as much help as they can," he said.
Hatch blasts 'phony' issues
Republican leaders earlier met with White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta for about an hour in response to the president's call for "the very best ideas" for fighting terrorism.
Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, emerged from the meeting and said, "These are very controversial provisions that the White House wants. Some they're not going to get."
Hatch called Clinton's proposed study of taggants -- chemical markers in explosives that could help track terrorists -- "a phony issue."
"If they want to, they can study the thing" already, Hatch asserted. He also said he had some problems with the president's proposals to expand wiretapping.
Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-South Dakota, said it is a mistake if Congress leaves town without addressing anti-terrorism legislation. Daschle is expected to hold a special meeting on the matter Wednesday with Congressional leaders."

Republicans were against Operation Desert Fox, which wiped out most of Saddams military targets, 50 the first night, and no one got killed.

Guess who was against the attack on Saddams weapons. THE REPUBLICANS!

Answer 10

Yes.